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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 136 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The attorneys for Twitter asked to be included on any further information in the case? You're allowed to just do that? Can I go into a courtroom and demand to be included in any for the communication and all relevant further information in a case? Are they taking Jones on as a client? I'm confused how they have legal standing to do this.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 77 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If I were to guess, and question the existance of standing, my bet is musk was a bidder when infowars was put for sale. My guess is possibly the families themselves objected and asked the court to take a lower bid, that would do what they actually cared about (Create counter messaging to his blowhard conspiracy theories).

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I figured it had to do with the sale of the @realAlexJones twitter handle that was being disputed. I cant remember if that had been settled or not, but I know he was trying to keep it, and the opposing side said it was a business account and should be turned over.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That makes sense. Twitter currently reserves the right to decide who gets what handle so court orders saying otherwise would likely ruffle their feathers.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I was born cynical but him making a fuss has other motives but I'm not that clever. Is he trying to become a martyr? He spends thousands per moth, he can afford another set, no? He has hidden money everywhere.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

He owes a billion dollars. Infowars isn't worth near that much. Even after the sell, he'll continue oweing hundreds of millions of dollars until the day he dies.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Quotes from the article:

According to Bloomberg, Murray told Lopez that Global Tetrahedron’s bid was a better option because the Sandy Hook families agreed to waive some of the money owed to them in order to pay off Jones’ other creditors. “I’ve always thought my goal was to maximize the recovery for unsecured creditors,” Murray said, per Bloomberg. “And under one bid, they’re clearly better than they were under the other.”

and

The only other bid besides the Onion’s was $3.5 million from First United American Companies LLC, the company that operates Jones’ online supplement store.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

legal standing is lots of money

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m legally standing on a stack of cash

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 1 month ago

This is the classical definition of Legal Standing, yes

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

You can go into a courtroom, no one can stop you from trying. And if Twitter's attorneys want to represent Jones, they can certainly do so, in which case they will be included on future communication.

A large percent of legal proceedings are not kept secret, so if the lawyers are not representing him and they are trying to make a big deal out of the fact that they want to get informed, actually they're just grandstanding and there's nothing to see here. Probably that's what's happening.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 113 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Back about 25 years ago Jones was very anti fascist. Wonder what happened to completely ignore the actual fascists. Probably money from the fascists.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The irony of saying that you're against the corrupt establishment and then going out and saying you're a big supporter of Donald Trump, the most corrupt, most established politician of the 2020's.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 10 points 1 month ago

Just the 2020s? More like all of American history!

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The rabbit hole is only about a thousand podcast episodes deep.

https://knowledgefight.com/

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't want to hate black people, I renounce Jesus Christ!

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

My bright spot today is tennis!

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

In reality, it's time America to pay.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Just the usual right-libertarian brainrot. You either become increasingly more authoritarian, a boring liberal, or a leftist, since right-libertarianism cannot defend itself against fascism.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Getting booted from Coast to Coast didn't do him any favors.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 96 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I hate this timeline, because you just know that Trump is going to give a metal to this asshole before he leaves office, just like he did with Limbaugh.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alex Jones deserves a metal. A lead, to be precise.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

Or a depleted uranium

[–] fern@lemmy.autism.place 22 points 1 month ago

Trump is going to give a metal to this asshole

I hope it's cylindrical and moving very fast hehe

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Well, they were of great service to him

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bit fucking late isn't it? It was already sold. To The Onion.

They might sell it back, tho. For $12 decacillion.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

Sale hasn't been approved by the bankruptcy court yet.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Ooops@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Sadly he is indeed "special"...

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Onion should sell it back for exactly 1 googol, then pay the fines imposed to Google bey Russia, and finally, purchasing Google with the change.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For the record the "change" from that deal would be, measured to any reasonable degree of accuracy, exactly one googol.

It's really really hard to explain how numbers that big work.

Basically if you had ten trillion dollars, and you spent one single cent, you would have spent a greater proportion of your wealth than that fine would be as a proportion of one googol dollars.

And just to really put all that in perspective, let's talk about how big that fine actually is.

It's frequently said that it's more than the entire world's GDP, but that's not even close. Imagine if every single planet (not "habitable planet", just "planet") in our galaxy - all eight trillion of them - was terraformed to support life. Imagine if all of them had a population and economy like Earth. The entire galaxy's GDP wouldn't be enough.

In fact, a hundred of those galaxies wouldn't be enough. A thousand wouldn't be enough. A hundred thousand wouldn't be enough. It would take 20 million of those galaxies to pay that fine (at the time of reporting; by now its more galaxies than exist in all the known universe, because it doubles every day).

And all of that would still be a rounding error to a rounding error against one googol.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's amazing!!

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

USA a dictatorship January 20th, the next day Infowars will go back to Jones.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck those fat punching bags. In their mouths

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Instructions unclear. Does fist or penis go in mouth?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[–] MishikoYuki@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

I thought it was supposed to be a punishment

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 25 points 1 month ago

This rigged trope is so tiring. You lost fair and square