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I'll tip my hat to the new Constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

Yeah
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If these Republican idiots actually believed in small government, they'd be Libertarians.

They'd still be idiots, but they'd be Libertarians.

[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Both love big gov, just slight differences in which wars they want to support and which industries will get government funding.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If Libertarians were libertarians, they'd oppose the Taft-Hartley Act.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If libertarians were libertarians, they'd know what the Taft-Hartley Act is... and maybe, who Taft and... Hartley are to begin with, but only if we're being really optimistic.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 78 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Except the "Small government" is even bigger. The only difference is that all the money gets handed to oligarchs. The Republicans have never reduced spending while in power.

This kind of shit is why the right keeps winning. Even the people that oppose them buy into and repeat their lies and propaganda.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah, the fifth panel is the billionaires stuffing their private jets with the cash over the corpse of the big government.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Fucking TSA, 2 decade long wars.... Republicans have NEVER reduced spending or increased liberties. It's all bullshit, but their propaganda machine is simply miles ahead because they have almost zero infighting.

Democrats are constantly bickering, and not about just important stuff. I fully believe there are bad actors purposefully starting arguments about BS they know Democrats will latch on and distract us. And as a bonus make us look like lunatics to anyone not already fully aligned with our ideas.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

Building giant walls, deporting people en masse, surveillance society, making sure women's rights are held at bay, placing and enforcing restrictions on clean energy - all things that sound "small government"? As dumb as they are, I don't think I've even heard the Republicans using this phrase lately - it's so ridiculous.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The right is REALLY good at messaging it's insane. The culture wars they start have created a "bogeyman" and it's insane.

I really hate it and how it sticks to the zeitgeist. It just makes me sad.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

It's because the right gets what they want by tearing things down and destroying, and instilling fear. It's inherently much easier to destroy and scare people than to build and inspire people

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

They increase spending on really stupid shit that have no legs but will absolutely gut useful services. People aren’t wrong to be mad when they see their stuff get defunded and that’s the important stuff many are going to focus on. So you’re right but it’s not as simple as that.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is that not what this comic is saying?

Showing the blatant hypocrisy?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The comic shows a smaller govt and says that's bad for the poor.

The person to whom you're responding is saying Republicans actually create a bigger government that's worse for the poor.

They're spending less on social services and frittering it away on government bibles that only Trump sells.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

See I saw it as an irony type thing where the artist is showing the blatant hypocrisy of the idea of govt so small it fits into every household.

Maybe I'm just overthinking it.

[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No the comic is showing the government is litterally small, implying welfare cuts. Reality is, any "cuts" are just going to be moved somewhere else. Not given back to the tax payers.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That's fair I just thought it was done to showcase the hypocrisy of a govt small enough to fit in your pants.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Small gov't is usually a lie anyway. It's a smokescreen for "actually we're still going to tell you what to do."

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They strip away everything that actually helps people, so in that way it's really small.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

So small it'll fit in your vagina.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

They compartmentalize accountability. It's easy to say it's some other guy. Then he gets fired, replaced and fights for the chance to have it happen again.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It’s small because they have zero oversight and they only need to worry about one party. Hurray!

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

It's never "small government" when it comes to funding pig.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The smallest government is a dictatorship.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Small dick tater

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

There are people who, disturbed by "big government" today and its tendency to curb the advantages they might gain if their competitiveness were allowed free flow, demand "less govern- ment." Alas, there is no such thing as less government, merely changes in government. If the libertarians had their way, the distant bureaucracy would vanish and the local bully would be in charge. Personally, I prefer the distant bureaucracy, which may not find me, over the local bully, who certainly will. And all historical precedent shows a change to localism to be for the worse.

—Isaac Asimov, Nice Guys Finish First, collected in The Sun Shines Bright, 1981

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oh and their idea of small government is letting the rich stomp on you while police tanks roll though the streets mowing down anyone who doesn't bow to them.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And also way more expensive than big government

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 5 days ago

Well of course, it's about less taxes for the rich not less taxes. It's ok, all that wealth is gonna trickle down any time now.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

If government is actually the top power on the land with oversight over and the power to rule over everything, then the power of voters which choses the people who lead said government controls the top power on the land, which is what's known as Democracy (even when imperfect).

However if government ties its own hands so that it doesn't really oversee or rule over the domains were Money has the most power, then it's not the top power on the land anymore - Money is - and the votes of people do not control the highest power on the land anymore, they only control a secondary power, so what you have in not Democracy anymore, it's Oligarchy - Money is not democratic since doesn't have any "one person one vote" rule and instead some have billions of times more power than others.

"Small government" is really just a slogan for a government which has had its hands tied by reducing its funding so that it's unable to oversee, much less rule over, the areas where Money dominates, especially when it comes to facing the wealthiest people and companies. Mind you this only works if the other elements of Democracy are kept, so Money still wants a Judiciary and Law Enforcement independent of Government to uphold their ownership of things and stop the plebes from taking their shit, just a government weakenned in all other areas and unable to fight Money in the Courts.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

and by continuing to give the people the right to vote adds a veil of legitimacy to the power of the government so there is less of a chance of a uprising.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

which is what’s known as Democracy

Just because it's "known" as "democracy" because politicians and their crony media capitalists have been throwing the word around for a few centuries doesn't actually make it democracy.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well, Money de facto ruling over massive domains in a country, including access to life essentials, is the very opposite of Democracy.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Republicans want tyranny, not small government.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 days ago

Government so small it fits not only within your bedroom, but within your uterus!

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Me when "small government" supporters don't start by defunding the police

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

And now I shall imagine that's what all ftp:// URLs are saying.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

Fuck the poor, fuck the old, fuck the environment, fuck soldiers and veterans, fuck the sick, fuck food safety...

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

"small government"

As long as you're a Cis white Christian male that didn't go to college

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Surely small Government means repealing all that red tape enforcing individual property rights too?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Pick up my guitar and play

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Updoots for use of "go on, get!".

There's a new improved version being pushed now which introduces itself by saying "fuck everyone except the incredibly wealthy".