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[-] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 month ago

Sam also had the ring for a short time (longer than Déagol)

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

Fuck, probably Boromir too.

[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Don't think he counts because the Ring had no power over him. So while he did have it briefly, he wasn't a "Ring bearer" any more than the river.

[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

He had agency and consciously took and held the ring.

The river only had it because the ring abandoned Isildur, and it fell there.

[-] deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Did he ever actually have the ring? I know he tried to take it from Frodo, but i don't think he succeeded. Unless i'm getting confused since i have watched the movies more recently than i have read the books...

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

. I’d say this counts for sure.

[-] deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

well, now i feel dumb. yes, that certainly counts.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

1850 years with the ring and accomplished nothing? What did he expect to be different? The ring didn't work. Try something new.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 102 points 1 month ago

He conquered the kings of men, and turned the dwarf lords to greed and wrath. He built Barad-dur and obliterated Numenor. He caused the separation of Valinor from the rest of Arda. He killed Gil-Galad and Elendil, and triggered the Elves leaving Arda forever.

If not for the hobbits, Sauron would have been unstoppable.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 87 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but other than those things, he did nothing!

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago

He was great for the economy though.

[-] Potatisen@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

The American take on LoTR, did line go up tho?

[-] Entropywins@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

As a member of the people's front of Judea, I agree.

[-] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

Pfft piss off, we're the Judean People's Front!

[-] swab148@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago
[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 month ago

The elves and humans were significantly more powerful for most of the second age. The third age was an era of general decline.

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Wasn't it an era of decline specifically due to Sauron's actions?

[-] Maultasche@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

He did use the ring in the war against Eregion, the siege of Ost-in-Edhil, and to influence the Numenoreans.

[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Sam was the lord of the rings. I will not be taking questions.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

I know you said no questions, but how many snails are in a mile?

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

As many as can fit. Next question!

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Why does the porridge bird lay its eggs in midair?

[-] oce@jlai.lu 19 points 1 month ago

To justify the investment, it would need to become mainstream.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

Frodo had the ring for 17 years? And he and Sam didn't age at all during that?

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 month ago

If your only source is the movies, one of the annoying gripes about them is they have this deceptive editing that makes it seem like Frodo left the Shire within a relatively short timespan after the birthday party.

Frodo got the ring on the 22nd of September of 3001. He leaves Bag End on the 23rd of September...of 3018.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

Someone should edit the movie to have a transparency of a calendar having its pages blown in the wind until it lands on 3018.

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Yes, I have always from the first time I saw the movies thought that's what they needed. A five second clip of that and nothing else about the movie has to change!

[-] TwanHE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Hear me out, SpongeBob style voice over with "17 years later"

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Interesting, though that still doesn't explain the aging part though. I get that Hobbits age slower than humans but if their life expectancy is only 100 years, the difference should be noticeable right?

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

Sam aged, Frodo did not. I recall several mentions throughout the books that Frodo was considered unusually young-looking for a 50-year old hobbit, just as Bilbo himself was very young-looking for 111. Owning the ring seems to basically just pause your aging, even if you're not using it.

Sam was also twelve years younger than Frodo, but since Frodo stopped aging for 17 years, he wound up effectively older, physically speaking.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Not pause, but slow. That's why Gollum looked like shit, but still good for being 500 years old!

[-] shottymcb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

When 500 years old you reach, look as good you will not hmm?

[-] cd_slash_rmrf@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

he wasn't actively wearing/using the ring while in the shire iirc

[-] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 12 points 1 month ago

They are Hobbits, they don't really age all that fast.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

according to Google they have a life expectancy of 100 years, so they do age a bit slower but a ~20 year difference should still be noticeable

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 15 points 1 month ago
[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ah shit, ya beat me to it

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

So like, an animated series featuring river fish, like Finding Nemo but with the One Ring?

[-] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I would watch this again and again and treasure it and call it my precious FOREVER.

The movie could be a long story arc with the main fish getting the ring stuck around them and having all sorts of adventures, learning valuable lessons and finally returning to their spawning point to teach the other local fish all the knowledge the main fish had learned. It would all wrap up to this beautifully happy ending and BAM! Déagol grabs it. Movie ends.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

Middle Earth itself has been described as the "ring" that Morgoth poured his own power into. Since a river is an extension of Middle Earth, it means Morgoth really was the true Lord of the Rings.

[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

That's why you should stab it in the mouth.

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