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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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My personal opinion, for those who are interested, is that these two instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) are filled with what we call here nazbols, tankies, or even left-wing fascists.

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

I found it tolerable to “do nothing” as long as they stayed in their corners, but I had somewhat forgotten that an authoritarian remains an authoritarian and that the only place they deserve is down a well, not forgetting to strike the hands that try to escape with a big stick.

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[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 73 points 3 months ago (1 children)

gotta love the Fr*nch talking like this meanwhile their country threw peaceful protestors out of airplanes. that was 62 years ago, today they shoot African kids then beat up the ones that protest against the killing

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah and they still to this day support the kingdom of morocco's colonization of the western sahara along with the us and isntreal.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 72 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The French when you call out their neo colonialism...

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

hitting the translate button on a french tweet is either the missing page of colombus or a maoist

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Now I want to see Maoist Standard French, haha

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[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 54 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The french when Haiti stops paying reparations to Paris.

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Le wokisme est le vrai fascisme :( les fascistes noirs et rouges ont volé mes esclaves :(((

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago
[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 68 points 3 months ago

politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges

at a certain point it just stops being historical illiteracy and becomes outright bad faith

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 64 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (72 children)

"Leftists" who never read theory and live in the Global North inevitably side with Empire and Colonialism, and see people pushing for national liberation and revolution as dangerous to them personally. Anansi is the premier example of this, to the point of death threats against Communists.

Let's analyze this.

My personal opinion, for those who are interested, is that these two instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) are filled with what we call here nazbols, tankies, or even left-wing fascists.

Extremely serious claims (among the ridiculous like the idea that there could be a "left-wing fascism), let's see how they justify it.

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

Primarily "authoritarians?" Who forms their political ideology around supporting use of authority, and not based on analysis of material conditions and who modern structures serve? This claim is left unsupported as though it is natural and obvious, as though people decide to be "authoritarian" by siding against Imperialism and colonialism, seeking power from siding with the people with less power. It's nonsense.

Secondly, there is a claim of using the "same tools," as fascists, which is false. Communists are revolutionary, fascists work with the establishment. Communists support democracy via Democratic Centralism, fascists crush democracy. Communists are internationalists, fascists are nationalists. Communists support violence against oppressors as a tool of liberation, fascists support violence against the oppressed as a tool of submission. It's further nonsense.

Finally, the idea that it is the Communists siding with fascists, and not the liberals and Social Democrats siding with the facsists against the Communists, is entirely absurd and historically revisionist. From the SPD siding against the KPD and with the NSDAP, to any major historical current, Communists have sided against the fascists.

Anansi, read Blackshirts and Reds. You fundamentally have no idea what Communism and Fascism are, who the Communists and Fascists serve, and their adversarial relationship. This clouds your entire worldview.

I found it tolerable to “do nothing” as long as they stayed in their corners, but I had somewhat forgotten that an authoritarian remains an authoritarian and that the only place they deserve is down a well, not forgetting to strike the hands that try to escape with a big stick.

Ending it with a call to violence against Communists, a time-honored tradition amongst fascists. In context, Anansi was projecting their own tendencies towards authoritarianism and fascism on the antifascist Communists. Shocker!

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 56 points 3 months ago

historically tend to ally with “official” fascists

Historically its always liberals who allied with fascists. 'First they came for communists' and all.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago (4 children)

anti authority until it comes to the authority to throw people down wells

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 3 months ago

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

That's the galactic range projection, herr Noske

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago (4 children)

et ont tendance politiquement et historiquement à s’allier aux fascistes “officiels” dès qu’un mouvement réellement de gauche révolutionnaire émerge.

Says the frog from the country that immediately capitulated to the fascists and reorganized itself into a fascist ally state in ww2

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh look another lemmy bluefash dipshit outright lying about our political orientation to win brownie points with other neoconservative dipshits

The fantasy worldbuilding they construct about us is funny in an ironic sense tho

As always their accusations are always confessions

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)

left wing fascists

Tbf, we do have socdems around

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do we even do that's so authoritarian? Respect people or your post is removed? OMG AUTHORITARIAN TANKIES WONT LET ME MIS GENDER PEOPLE OMMGGGGGGGGG JUST LIKE NAZI RUSSIA oooaaaaaaauhhh

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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is this even gaslighting or just pure fantasy? Any time "MAGA communists" (who it sounds like this person is referring to, although their brain seems to be smashed potatoes incapable of thought) are brought up they get instantly shot down as the grifting, disingenuous pieces of trash that they are. Also, there's like 4 of them.

If you're gonna try these lies... try harder? I guess? Or don't?

Also.......... French. Come on, guy. If you're French, speaking French, maybe also just don't do this. Extra layer of embarrassment.

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[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 3 months ago (7 children)

French continues to be a waste of time.

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago
[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Damn they're not even gonna hide the projection huh

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[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago

Aaaaaah, the french!

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Weren't French the ones that allied with actual fascists? lol c'est toujours d'Europe occidentale et ses maudit gens qui deviennent fasciste en plein tout des temps.

[–] KimJongGoku@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Les tankies et le wokisme, such a beautiful language

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ohohoho, baguette du fromage! Nononon! Le ribbit ribbit!

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[–] Ossay@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Historically-speaking anansi tend to associate closely with extremely young people and wear an open hair-on-your-chest-BHL shirt

damn you can write any thing with "historically-speaking" before it and it becomes true!

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