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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Summary

Donald Trump’s allies are worried that Elon Musk’s supposed canvassing efforts could cost them the election.

Elon Musk’s America PAC is under fire for allegedly faking canvassing data and mistreating workers on Donald Trump’s campaign. Roughly a quarter of reported door-knocks in Arizona and Nevada were flagged as “unusual,” suggesting location spoofing. Canvassers also report poor conditions, including working through a hurricane and being transported in a U-Haul instead of promised rentals. Frustrated Republican operatives are urging Trump to abandon Musk’s PAC due to its operational failures.

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[-] Blackout@fedia.io 176 points 2 days ago

It always cracks me up when people say private companies can do the job better with less regulation. Most businesses fail and the news is constantly full of stories about fraud.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 79 points 2 days ago

And more often than not, these companies rely on handouts from the government anyway.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 28 points 2 days ago

Especially if they are rich enough to buy the necessary politicians. Like Phoney Stark is.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 12 points 2 days ago

Especially these people indeed, it's one of the reasons they get so rich in the first place.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

And toxic shit and doors flying off of planes and stuff. But I guess the top ones got a little more money out of it for a quarter or two I guess...

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just gotta work in a big enough company to realize that it's no more efficient than the public sector. Compared to a business with 50 employees and a single boss? Sure, private sector is much more agile. Public services in the US have over 20 millions employees with about 3 millions for the federal government, what company has that many so we can compare apples to apples? Hint: None, Walmart is the biggest at 2 million employees.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 184 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Elon Musk forgot the formula for success he used in all his other businesses:

  • Buy a bussiness made by smart people

  • Pour money into it

  • Don't fuck it up too much

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago

And the Trump formula:

  • Get someone gullible supporting you

  • Use him up

  • Blame him for everything and throw him under the bus

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 42 points 2 days ago

I can't wait for this to happen to Elmo Muskrat.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 78 points 2 days ago

Hes been high on his own supply for too long. He thinks everything he touches will succeed just because.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Well put. I never anticipated this.

[-] borf@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When is he going to do points #2 and #3 for Twitter

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Point 2 was him buying the company. Now we're on step 2.5: cost savings to make it profitable. Unfortunately, Shitter will never be profitable now that they've fucked up #3 and destroyed the brand and are working on turning shitter into a Nazi bar.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Eh. I’m honestly pretty convinced at this point that the ultimate intent was never really to make money with Twitter.

Sure, he would have liked to recoup his costs. But at the end of the day, eel on musk paid 40something billion dollars to buy one of the most prolific social media companies in the history of social media. It’s just a big megaphone with speakers in everyone’s smartphones. It’s a propaganda device. He is openly using it to try to swing public opinion towards Trump (amongst various other things), and has been since about 6 months after he bought it and “cleaned house”. He’s using it to try to directly affect the result of the election. That’s it. That’s his plan. And he thinks he’ll become cemented into Trump’s inner circle if he pulls it off.

[-] markr@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

He spent 40B mostly of other people’s money. His liability is like 12B. The more interesting question is why various stodgy bankers gave him the other 28B.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The more interesting question is why various stodgy bankers gave him the other 28B.

Because that's how the system works.

If you have $5,000 and owe 15,000, you're in debt and most likely have to work a shitload of hours in a dead end job for the rest of your life in a futile attempt to make ends meet.

If you have 3 billion dollars and owe 30 billion, you're a billionaire and get to do whatever you want consequence free, including breaking all of the laws.

[-] borf@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Point 1 was him buying the company though. He has not poured any money into it, as you say he has done quite the reverse

[-] borf@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 days ago

Note that when people say "pour money into a company" they mean "invest wisely in the parts of the company that work" not "buy a thing with a big price tag" those are two completely separate things

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You and I understand that, but I bet PG doesn't.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Leon Skum:

  • ~~Buy a bussiness made by smart people~~ I smart, I make business

  • Pour money into it - yes

  • Don't fuck it up too much - YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It's that last one that's a real doozy for him

[-] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

To bad he's bad as doing even that

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 128 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The guy who blew vast sums of campaign money on fake canvassing (and vast sums of his own money on Twitter) is who Trump plans to put in charge of government waste. Let that sink in.

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 days ago

well let's not also forget the amount of taxpayer money dumped into Tesla/spacex/starlink! the guy is the biggest welfare leach, and most of his ideas were stolen from someone else!

so basically a welfare queen whining about "excess government spending". How ironic.

[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Well he also wants to put anti vaxxer RFK Jr in a prominent role overseeing public health, so there's that too. Though I thought the role of Secretary of Transportation would go to Elon.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Grifters grifting grifters lol.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 85 points 2 days ago

I love when republicans think they are the smartest people on Earth as they stab themselves in the face. They literally deserve what they do to themselves.

[-] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago

I find your imagery accurate and disturbing.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 13 points 2 days ago

And I wish the GOPers would do a lot more of the "Stabbing themselves in the face" thing. It would keep them from bothering us.

[-] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago

it would be better if the just stopped acting so weird

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

I’ve been waiting for the moment these two egos clash with each other and the ultimate breakup plays out in front of everyone.

I just hope it’s enough to be the final nail in the Trump campaign’s coffin, if it hasn’t already imploded enough on its own.

[-] min_fapper@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago

I suspect that will happen after election day (3 days from now).

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'll be happy enough if its "just" Elon who loses out.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

Republicans: The only thing that can make us lose is election interference.

Elon: You have my sword.

Republicans: Wait, no...

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

They can all eat shit and die.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 12 points 2 days ago

Hopefully as soon as possible.

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Trump leading in election betting odds? Feeling sick

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Betting odds measure the vibes of people who gamble. Not exactly reliable

[-] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Don’t get so stressed about completely made up numbers. Save it for Tuesday, then stress :)

[-] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago

Focus that stress energy and go volunteer!

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Nah. I like to get a good head of steam on my stress before I go off the rails. Much more spectacular.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Trump and Musk probably just bought up enough to put them ahead.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I honestly think that’s true, plus faked polls, burn a few mail boxes that don’t matter. Just need enough weird things to happen to “credibly” claim voter fraud and give the state legislatures room to avoid certifying their elections.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Not going to spend a second trying to find the answer, but I wonder if the odds-makers are distinguishing between who wins the election and who is the next leader of the United States. Because those may be different things.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 16 points 2 days ago

It’s a good thing that Musk is only a hereditary meritocrat, a person of mediocre ability able to buy his way into the ranks of the great, and having been surrounded by claques of sycophants for his entire life, having lost any capacity for self-criticism. So, of course when he put his visionary genius to work getting Trump elected, it went as well as you’d expect.

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