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[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still feel like they seem to be building a bit too much hype to what's going to be just another type of social media in the fediverse with scarce posts made by almost exclusively tech enthusiasts

Maybe they are trying to get enough hype so it doesn’t end up being completely that way.

[–] HighlyRegardedArtist@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Hot take: let this brain rot format die already. If you cannot hold your attention for longer than a few minutes at a time, you might want to work on that instead of embracing it.

[–] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Current research suggests that declining attention is most likely caused by an expectation of quality rather than actual personal issues. Condensing information is a valuable skill an people do not have time for middle length content just to be disappointed.

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 10 months ago

But then how am I supposed to use your "research" to make imaginary claims on generational attention spans ?

[–] HighlyRegardedArtist@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You might want to give some sources for that claim.

This article from Time summarizes quite well my view of the issues related to attention span. This is certainly not limited to the likes of tiktok or twitter, but I think those can be considered as representing two of the worst platform formats for meaningful content.

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you not think some people doomscroll lemmy, only reading titles and looking at image posts?

[–] HighlyRegardedArtist@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Sure, there are those people, but that's not the point here. Lemmy doesn't enforce some arbitrary short length to its posts in an attempt to force the users to engage more with the platform instead of the actual content. The same cannot be said of tiktok or twitter, for example.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe but it's not the point of it. An infinite scrollable shorts/tiktok like is meant to be doomscrolled

[–] TacoSocks@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I watch YouTube shorts sometimes, the algorithm gives me mostly comedy, usually some type of shketch where one person plays all the characters. I've also seen quick tip or educational videos, outdoor clips. None of what I engage with is doomscroling.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

1 - Even when educational you can't retain all the infos that these short videos give you

2 - Log out of YouTube, and watch the default YouTube shorts feed, you would be amazed how this is a concentrate of shitty posts.

[–] TacoSocks@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

1 - I'm not going to YouTube shorts to be educated, but if Hank Green shows up and drops a fact on me that'll entertain me for 30 seconds, I'm good. It's not doomscrooling which was your original point.

2 - Well yeah that's a bad idea on most content websites, just because the lowest common denominator content is bad doesn't mean it's bad once you curate what you want to watch.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

2 - but that's the problem! All the new accounts, which are very often children just growing up, get bombarded with the most evil and actively damaging shit, and they don't have the ability to curate whatever comes to them, they don't even know that they need to do that. And if you aren't spending hours upon hours on the platform, you don't have time to curate the algorithm anyway, so you will be served poison

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That's a room temp take at best

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[–] AHasshacked@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It really depends on how you implement it. Look up Jaden Williams or ailaughatmyjokes (Silvia), some of their videos could be a really good example of how to do good shorts.

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Yes I want a full-featured documentary about a cute baby hippo. You're right.

[–] AutoPastry@sopuli.xyz 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

What content would people like to see on this platform? I would think the fediverse audience would be a bit different from your average tiktok or instagram reels user

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Reposts from TikTok insta and youtube

[–] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am not average then. I use tiktok to discover musicians, get short informative videos from science enthusiasts, and poetry or life advice.

Some of these are only possible because of the remarkable recommendation algorithm but I stay hopeful.

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the entire saving grace of the fediverse is a lack of algos and curation of your own content. algorithms have basically broken social media and the way we interact with the web. quality and substance is nowhere to be seen for the past few years and many of those who migratate to the fediverse do so specifically for the improved quality of content - it's the whole selling point.

[–] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

What tiktok does is curate well. But I often find myself searching for new creators by what I already like. Tagging systems and smart groupings can help me customise my feed on my own but are really hard to do by hand. The problem with algos is that I get no say in what they hide and show. I would love my personal bias to be embedded by myself. The problem lies in who controls the algorithm and what their biases are.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anyone know what loops are?

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 38 points 10 months ago (15 children)

but federated and open source

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Happy Groundhog Day I guess.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Yay! I'm in! I'm very excited about this

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Got mine yesterday when we were out. Told my kid that it would be a non-corporate alternative to TikTok. She couldn't have been less interested. Sigh.

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

I just got my email 2 minutes ago!

[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I got in - but there isn't much to see/do yet. Not sure how to post videos, can't see anyone else

Weird

[–] kleso@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. Started suspecting that its app-only.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/113396070912173145

That was the original plan, but seems like they will create a web app some time down the road

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I got one but it said it was iOS only

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

I thought they meant time traveler

[–] Summzashi@lemmy.one 4 points 10 months ago

The comments are always everyone just shitting on this bullshit lmao

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

no invite and I've been on the waitlist since it's been announced :(

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