The person who wrote that letter is DONE dealing with sov cit shit. It's the most pointed "stop wasting our time you fucking dick for brains" I've seen yet in response to people trying this.
Car dealerships have to be the number one hot spot for sovcit shenanigans, after family court. First thing these fuckers want when they think they have unlimited money is a free truck.
And the last thing the dealerships want is for people to get away with a free truck. So they're going to come down on this shit hard.
This isn't the same as a cop pulling them over because they don't have a license plate and the cop lets them go because dealing with their shit is above his pay grade. This is their pay grade.
He sent in the cupon instead of the coupon. Rookie mistake. Now he's on the hook for the entire loan amount.
Sovcit probably shouldn't post your entire VIN on the Internet either
And full name, and zip code. Hell the account number probably isn't a great idea either.
I didn't even notice.
Great Scott, you twits. You don’t get free cars for choosing not to participate in society!
If they don't want to participate in society, the least they could do is go move out into a shack in the woods Unabomber style.
Maybe not bomb people Unabomber style though.
I Would even go with ‘probably don’t’
I didn't want to step on anyone's hopes and dreams.
But - and this is for our own sovcits - no free healthcare (or soon dental and then vision) for you! Choose to exit society and renege on your obligations and you get no benefits from it. Come into a hospital and you're paying "vacationer rates" (because we have those and they're smaller numbers but they're like America).
"What's the next best step?"
Find a lawyer.
Fucking pay your car note buddy or you'll be on the bus telling them you don't need to pay the fare and to just bill the trust.
Nice. Those never fail to cheer me up :)
They're honestly hilarious.
Does this ever work? I just wonder what fuels this collective insanity. If it's never worked before, is the goal to keep trying until it does and then constitutes legal precedent?
It has never worked, but there are people online pretending it has, which makes some people who aren't very smart think maybe it'll work for them, too.
I see a huge untapped business opportunity in selling “how to” courses and templates to sovcits
For fifty bucks I'll tell you exactly how to make money scamming people.
"does that actually work"
"No it never does... But it might work for us"
-Arrested development
Millions of people are saddled with bills they can't pay and an uncaring and complicated bureaucracy they struggle to navigate because of poor education, then they find a community of people claiming to have the solution to all of their problems. It doesn't have to work, they just have to believe it does and they will rationalize away any sign that it doesn't. The sovcit community gives them a feeling of autonomy and control they will not easily part with.
They're very seldom a poverty problem. I never post the ones who are just trying to desperately find a solution. The ones I post are all hardcore anti government lunatics who want to get everything for free.
As I said above, poor education has nothing to do with it.
Jerry Kane gave business seminars.
Gavin Eugene Long was a data network specialist in the U.S. military.
Those are just the most visible people due to their wealth and influence. For every rich sovcit there are probably a thousand in abject poverty. They live in rural areas, usually in mobile homes, and fly Gadsden flags. I've known several. Try working for an ISP as an installer or repairman and some might even take a few shots at you.
Aside from the Bundys, which are not there, those are all the biggest SovCit criminals cases, so it's weird that you are just dismissing them like that.
And I wouldn't say a dentist or a military IT guy had wealth or influence.
They're stupid and their in-group are also mostly idiots.
Facebook and other platforms are partly culpable because they could stamp this out to prevent it was spreading, but they don't care.
No response means the magic gibberish has worked, and rejection means that they move on to the next step of paper terrorism. When they wind up in court they further dig in. It's peak "us vs them" mindset.
Novation lol
I hope they tear him a new one
https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/decoder/Decoder is a fun tool to mess with...
Example information to use VIN# 2C4RDGEG5JR285229 Year 2018
Manufacturer: FCA CANADA INC.
DBAs:
Vehicle Type: MULTIPURPOSE PASSENGER VEHICLE (MPV)
Model Year: 2018
Make: DODGE
Model: Grand Caravan
Body Class: Minivan
I kind of want a search engine to index this page so the next owner can see how fucking batshit crazy the previous owner of the car was.
Edit: Unjacked the formatting
I see this mentioned (in poor spelling every time) but what is this....coupon? It seems like they send it for everything as if it was a check to pay things.
You know with recurring bills like mortgage and car loans how they send you a little booklet with all your info so you can just drop that in the envelope too rather than write down all your info and possibly fuck things up? What would you say if I told you that you could write some magic words on it and turn it into a check that will draw on your estate with $2 million the government sets up for everyone? Well the guy featured in this post thought it was fucking genius.
No I understand what they think it does but what's the actual like object they send? Do they just write their Magic Text on those pieces of paper, and mail it off or is there like a Magic Coupon they print off?
Magic words on the paper itself.
? There are people in the world who pay their mortgage with a paper check? In this century?
People still pay with checks at grocery stores lol
Can confirm. Every now and then one my cashiers will call me over and be like "this old woman handed a signed piece of paper instead of money?"
It's also funny to show them the ol' shotgun credit card imprinter "you put the card there and the paper here kachunk and in a few weeks wed find out if they actually had the money at all!"
How the hell did that system work for soo long lol
They think everyone has anywhere from hundreds of thousands to tens of millions of dollars in secret bank accounts created by the treasury that they can access with the right paperwork.
I know what they want to happen but I've just never seen the physical Magic Coupon they say they use
A magician never reveals his secrets
I'm on mobile and unable to zoom in on the picture. How much personal info is readable through the cover letter?
Well, not even through the cover letter, the vin is entirely visible in the printed cover. That’s probably not great. I know anyone’s vin is totally visible in public walking by just like license plates, but it’s another thing to post it online for everyone to see.
the public vin wont be a problem for this guy much longer
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