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This is nationwide, apparently. This is just the infographic that the Nottingham council put out

ukkk

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 100 points 2 months ago

Wait so the state has made it illegal to take your child out of school but also it's a fine so rich parents who can afford week long vacations will just add this in as an expense

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[-] Krem@hexbear.net 68 points 2 months ago

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2024/08/05/travelling-during-school-time-here-are-the-fines-parents-could-face-across-europe

German police have been known to actively check airports for families taking unauthorised school-time holidays, communicating with schools to assess whether absence has been cleared.

germans cannot help but be cops about absolutely everything

(Netherlands) School absenteeism can be fined at €100 euros per day up to a maximum of €600 euros per family for one week and €900 for two weeks.

One day is a bit steep but at least they give you a discount if you do the whole two weeks in Phuket trip

(UK) Milder consequences of taking your child on holiday during school time without the school’s permission include being issued a parenting order by the court. This means you have to go to parenting classes. You may also be issued with an education supervision order or a school attendance order.

"Your attempt at fun has been noted. Please proceed to parental reeducation camp

eu-cool

At least norway and sweden seem somewhat chill

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Oh man let me tell you a story, when i was a kid i grew up and went to school in Turkey. But it was still advantageous to provide a secondary address in germany because of some legal stuff, which my parents did.

Noting that us kids weren't registered in any school, they sent fucking CPS to this secondary address with police in tow scaring the bejeesus out of the friend who was living at that address and forwarding letters sent there.

I dont know what exactly they were planning, like take us to a home or just scare those "religious nuts" straight. But we were safe and sound in Turkey lmao. Sent them a mail reminding them what a primary and a secondary address is, dumbass bureaucrats.

Anyway we had to go to german school during summerbreak that year because we had booked our plane tickets already and it was still school there. Which didn't suck, but I rather wouldn't have.

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 64 points 2 months ago

Do yiu hov a loicense for that vacation luv? maw

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Truancy penalties have sadly been a thing in the UK for a fair few years now. It's a really idiotic system. Some schools refuse to implement it in practice, but it is effectively mandatory (and has achieved nothing).

As someone who lived a povertous upbringing and had a ~20% absence rate in school, this would've absolutely destroyed me and my family if it had been in effect then.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago

the brits are the original poor haters so this tracks

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

Brits innovated a lot of methods to fuck the poor.

[-] shath@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago

get into the worker factory prole or we'll make you homeless

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 54 points 2 months ago

People gotta start making politicians afraid to do shit like this

[-] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago

personally i think constantly about how to instill useful fear in the political class that isn't just something that'll get me sent to a blacksite or executed

got no answers yet, i'm usually good at tests so i'll get back to you

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

The prime minister of Denmark got lightly pushed by a drunk polish man recently, and she's still not over it. Had all the politicians here come out and condemn "the violent attack". They seemed real freaked out. So uhhh, if you ever just get the chance to shoulder-check them, that should be more than enough

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago

What happened to the drunk man though?

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago

Some say he's still drunk and Polish to this day

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

That's a pretty cruel punishment.

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[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 months ago

We had a similar incident here with the ex-Treasurer. Being forced to actually interact with a member of the working class is enough to give them the vapours.

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 months ago

git gud and don't get caught

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 52 points 2 months ago
[-] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

For anyone curious, here's NPR doing their best to run cover for "The Story Behind Kamala Harris' Truancy Program"

Passed in 2011, the law allowed district attorneys to charge parents with a misdemeanor if their children missed 10 percent of the school year without a valid reason.

[-] anindefinitearticle@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Proud high school truant checking in to say that this is not the way schools should work. There are many valid paths to an education. Schools are often impediments to education. I have no disrespect for anyone with more important shit to do. Sometimes having a life requires some attention, and can have transformative educational impact.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

Did they make her Prime Minister too?!

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

No, I am pretty sure the Prime Minister is Juan Guaidó.

guaido

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 49 points 2 months ago

Struggling? How about a little more struggle?

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago

CW for mental health, suicideI was extremely anxious and depressed in school. I tried to kill myself rather than go to school many times. I skipped school a lot because I saw it as the only way to save my life.

Nice to know that if I lived in the UK and was in school a few years later, the government would have just robbed my parents of all their money. I'm sure coercing a depressed teenager into a place that makes them suicidal by threatening their parents financial stability couldn't go wrong

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

self harmI remember one time in elementary school I was sitting at the foot of my bed hitting my ankle with a baseball hoping I would get injured so I wouldn't have to go to school. I wasn't even bullied or anything, I just really, really didn't want to go. Never brought it up, nobody ever saw. Still had to go to school.

I've also started mentioning it now that I'm an adult. Never got a reaction more than "huh, interesting" though I feel like that was a super fucked up moment.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

I'd sleep with windows open and no blanket just so I could get sick and stay home. On the plus side I am now very hearthy!

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago

Jesus fuck it's real

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

For once I'm glad to live in the Wild West where they don't give a shit whether or not our kids go to school.

(Of course, that's because they want us to homeschool or send them to private schools.)

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they tried something like this in the US. Absenteeism has been pretty bad since COVID and I'm sure they'd love something this punitive to the poor to try and "solve" the problem

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

Eh, half of the US government’s goal for decades has been to fully dismantle the public education system so I don’t think they really care about encouraging attendance. They want it to be low.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

But have you considered that they also hate the poor

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Fair point. I actually really wouldn’t be surprised to see that in places like California and New York.

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[-] REgon@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Isn't there somebody you forgot to ask? volcel-kamala

[-] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Way to solve the birth rate crisis.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

Something something contradiction between pursuit of profit and reproduction of society.

[-] Amerihay@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

This is what happens when you don't brutally overthrow feudalism

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago
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[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 19 points 2 months ago

Last year I took my son out for a week at end of term with no fine and no issue, as they're just fannying about on the last week. Next year he'll have an unexpected illness.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 months ago

Is this a precursor to bringing back the horrific boarding school system where teachers were allowed to mercilessly beat students whenever they felt like it? Because it sounds like TERF island is so obsessed with glorifying their past that they'll even start doing shit like that again.

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[-] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

This absolutely boggles my American brain that you'd have to ask permission to take your kid out of school. When I was a child my parents would call the school and let them know when I would be away for vacation as a courtesy to the administration, telling not asking.

[-] TaviRider@reddthat.com 13 points 2 months ago

In America there’s a concerted effort to destroy public education. That means there are insane policies like this one: Some public schools lose a bit of funding each time a student doesn’t show up. Doesn’t matter that the school’s expenses stayed the same. It’s not like they could tell a teacher to go home 15 minutes early and reduce their pay accordingly, which would be awful for the teachers anyway. So schools are extremely motivated to keep kids in the school.

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[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

lol I would've impoverished my parents with my fucking school skipping, great way to build family bonds

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Oh don't worry, unless mpox, avian flu, and COVID do the Mr. Burns Three Stooges thing, there will be plenty doomjak

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