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https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/1dssr87/if_trump_or_the_republican_party_is_actually_that/

lol, exactly the kind of laughable response I expected.

The whole thread is a gold mine.

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[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 75 points 3 months ago

I love this. "We can't do this because it would be horrible and bad, so we have no choice but to wait until our opponents do it. Shooting someone who is trying to kill you actually makes you just as bad sweaty." smuglord

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 58 points 3 months ago

I now genuinely believe if the actual Adolf Hitler was running for office, liberals would actually think the solution is to not vote for him.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago

99% Blue Hitler, 99% Red Hitler, or 100% Hitler Hitler. Either way its the most important election of our lives.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 months ago

Either that, or they'd be saying that we need to support him to prevent Himmler from getting into office.

[-] waluigiblunts@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago

Holy shit, I can't believe liberals have yet to accuse people of being antisemitic for not voting for the lesser Hitler

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"It's antisemetic to not vote for 99% Hitler sweaty because he said he'll kill fewer Jews, so ipso facto he is better for them than 100% Hitler" maybe-later-kiddo

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[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

arbitrarily

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The only political ideology the United States has committed to banning in the United States is communism.

According to the State, everything else is perfectly allowable. frothingfash

[-] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

America doesn't ban opinions or invoke legal morality in such ways just because people have different opinions from your own.

Ban a political ideology? May as well teach my iPhone to eat a cheeseburger. maybe-later-kiddo

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 3 months ago

"The Republicans are going to make the US a dictatorship and eat children but taking action to make sure they can never come to power would be rude so you need to vote for 99% Hitler."

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

when they strip our citizenship, at least we held the moral high ground!

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 3 months ago

The liberals will cause a constitutional crisis just to allow Trump to run.

Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution, Section 3:

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

RIGHT!? Like, there are SO MANY options to prevent this, but they won't DO any of them because they fundraise well against Trump and would rather wave the panic in front of their voters to keep them engaged.

Very functional government.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

Crazy experience: I told the lib I work with that the democrats actually fund the crazier Republicans to encourage people to vote Democrat and he chuckled and said it's a good strategy (and yes, he said this unironically).

Libs who aren't affected by this election aren't very serious about it.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

I got called a "crazy conspiracy theorist" by a good friend for saying that, despite including documentation.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

It does feel like the average democrat's ignorant beliefs about the function and mechanics of government leave them mostly unable to understand how government actually functions.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

It's a fairytale-level understanding. They believe stories, and know what should happen, and any evidence to the contrary is discarded.

I found myself compelled to apologize to my partner repeatedly as I was teaching them to see past the veil; confronting and analyzing one's beliefs is an extremely painful process when you're doing it for the first time.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Honestly, I'm probably giving them too much credit. Willful ignorance.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just to anticipate the libs for a second, section 5 puts the burden on Congress to enforce it as SCOTUS pointed out in Trump v. Anderson (2024). However, let's not forget the Democrats had a trifecta in 2021-22 and could have pushed through legislation if they had wanted to ensure section 3 was applied/interpreted properly to this insurrection, which they easily should have been able to do — maybe even a resolution declaring Congress' intent was that it already applied under some old law would have been enough.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago

LIB

Paradox of Tolerance? Never heard of it. Just be sure to vote

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"We're better than that."

My brother in christ we have a shit ton of nuclear weapons. If "going high" means giving the keys of the Armageddon car to a maniac you are being an irresponsible dipshit and threatening everyone at the same time. You're a suicide bomber with extra steps.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

Liberals are married to “the meek shall inherit the earth.”

They think that if they just lie down and take it for all their lives, it will translate to good boy points and they’ll have the last laugh.

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

They’re married to American imperialism and all the treats it entails. There’s no evil they’ll not make peace with as long as they remain materially comfortable.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

Why do I keep forgetting these people are hypocrites?

I live in Ohio (not by choice) and it fills me with dread that the lifestyle that’s forced upon me is so unsustainable. Why would I not want to live in a world that aligns with my values?

[-] Pisha@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

There is literally precedent that the president can just order the killing of anyone in the world if it's for "national self-defense". The democrats' attitude of despair just isn't matched by the actions taken by their leaders.

[-] naom3@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The actual answer btw is that you can’t revoke anyones citizenship if they were born in the u.s. It’s actually kinda interesting and goes back to slavery and the dred scott decision, where the supreme court ruled that slaves and their decedents couldn’t be citizens. In response, after the civil war when they were drafting the 14th amendment they added the “citizenship clause” which granted automatic citizenship to everyone born in the united states. So basically because the point of this amendment was to give certain people citizenship regardless of what congress or the government say, the supreme court later ruled in Afroyim v Rusk that congress can’t revoke the citizenship of anyone born in the us. Although, interestingly, the court later ruled in Rogers v. Bellei that congress could revoke the citizenship of someone born outside the us to american parents since that citizenship doesn’t come from the citizenship clause

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

Revoke a citizenship with this one weird trick

Constitutional scholars hate it!

obama-drone

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You forgot about 8 USC 1481(a)(7) which considers inciting an insurrection (18 USC 2383) or even conspiring to assist one to be a voluntary act of giving up citizenship if done with the intent of giving up citizenship. A court that wanted to could say it was intentional certainly could...

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

So America is a two-party democracy where

  1. One of those parties is fascist and trying to install a fascist dictatorship
  2. The fascist party will enact said dictatorship only after accumulating enough power through elections
  3. The fascist party will abide by the result of elections that are not in their favor
  4. Any actions to reduce the ability of the fascist party to participate in elections is undemocratic
  5. Anyone exercising their democratic right to vote for the fascist party is contributing to the end of democracy (via item 1) but cannot be prevented from doing so by any means other than cajoling on social media.

This make sense to everyone?

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's the dead end of political pacifism. If you refuse to respond violently to a violent attack you're actually a noble person that honors humanity and totally not a loser than enables the power hungry sadist to terrorise innocents

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

People in Chile celebrate 9/11

This person has managed to say something sort of true (Chilean people commemorate 9/11 because of the coup and the bloodshed that came with it), for the absolutely wildest wrong reason. It's hilarious that this person thinks people in Chile remember 9/11 because it was bad for the US while the US was the one making the Chilean 9/11 happen in the first place.

What a fascinating mind.

[-] robinnn@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

OP is the one who made the post saying this.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

Exhibit A that liberals don't believe a single word of the horseshit they spew

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Noam Chomsky nailed it when he said that of course the media swings “liberal” because the whole point is “this is how left-wing you’re allowed to be.”

Of course we are permitted to disagree with them, sure, but we have to be total dipshits that tacitly believe that chuds are superhuman gods superior to us in every way.

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[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

Drone striking a citizen suspected of terrorism because they’re a potential threat of small scale violence?

pineapple-surf

Drone striking an immediate threat to the entire nation and liberalism itself?

sadness-abysmal

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

You gave away the game by using the term "Global South." You should've said that the electors should cast their ballot for Biden regardless if their state has a majority of Trump votes.

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

Banning political ideologies is based if it's the right ones. Revoking citizenship and creating stateless people IS bad but these people were all for it when it was teenage girls who got recruited by ISIS so fuck these hypocritical civility scolds.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

I think the actually interesting part of this is how delicately they insist Republicans be handled vs the barbarism they recommend against other countries (or will at least justify once the barbarism has been done). Trump? Must be protected. Qaddafi? Tortured to death in a hole in the ground. Democracy.

[-] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Good to know the oppression of the marginalized is an arbitrary reason.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Just completely unserious fools.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

With how liberals approach fascists it's no wonder why the so easily took power 100 years ago. It's pure cowardice.

The willingness by the population to go along with fascism seems comical. I mean, one half believes fascism is leftist because their media told them so, and you can't call anyone who disagrees with the left a fascist! Then the other half of the country believes opposing fascists is authoritarian and out of 1984 gommulism :smuglord: .

[-] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

nerd maybe-later-honey "because arbitrarily blah blah blah blah im so fuckin smart big brain! peepeepoopoo wait until 2025" nerd maybe-later-honey

Smug sniffing fart attitude on full display proudly flaunted as if their treat brunch loving liberal bullshittery isn't going to empower fascists and make this 2025 shit inevitable.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago
[-] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

that guy might have been on your side

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

Who cares? The us electoral system is a farce, no meaningful democracy exists. Read what they're saying. They won't support any action against the gop except putting a piece of paper in a box. And that's purely symbolic except in, what, a couple of counties in Pennsylvania? Who would want that person on their side? What would they contribute to the struggle?

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

And have they seen the right? Go on /pol/ or Twitter and you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone trying to discuss ways to encourage leftists to move to the right. Yet they’re winning culture war after culture war.

They know they don’t need to groom the next Mussolini out of any of us, anyone who could possibly go from left to fash will do so on their own.

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[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Alexa, show me someone who has no material incentive to oppose fascism

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