the-podcast guy recently linked this essay, its old, but i don't think its significantly wrong (despite gpt evangelists) also read weizenbaum, libs, for the other side of the coin

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And people survive all of that stuff, and are still people. I really don't understand what you're getting at here.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I never implied that uploaded people wouldn't be people. All I'm saying is that they'd be different people. It's not like putting on new clothes.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm getting the impression that you would think they were a different person, and I would not, and that disagreement lies not in any measurable process but rather our personal beliefs.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm getting the impression than you think you only exist in your head, whereas I do not, and this is a material disagreement on the self.

The measurable difference is that my conception of the self includes the embodied self and the social self. I am, in part, my body. I am, in part, my place in society. I am, in part, my relationships.

There is a dialectical relationship between the internal world inside our heads and the real world outside of it. Narrowly focusing on the brain misses this nuance.