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Republicans are pulling out all the stops to reverse EV adoption (www.theverge.com)

submitted 7 months ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 46 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Inb4 "both parties are the same".

While I hate stuff like these rollbacks, we are already starting to see EVs save people money on gas and service, and they are stupidly fast compared to ICE counterparts. That's something Americans of all stripes can get behind.

Once I tried an ebike, I realized I never wanted to go back to gas engines. So fast, so much torque, and pennies to charge vs $70 gas tanks at Costco (even more at a normal gas station). It just makes economic sense to run PEVs in all major urban areas in addition to mass transit.

With traffic and some protected bike lanes, even a conventional bike can almost beat a car in a 7-14 mile drive in my city. An ebike makes it even easier.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I'd be riding an ebike right now, if I knew how I could park it safely :/ do you typically bring it with you?

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, how much does your e-bike cost? If you can get one, especially a used one for a relatively affordable price and you actually sit down and tally up car costs like insurance, gas, maintenance, AAA, tires, any number of other costs…. I don’t think it matters if someone occasionally steals your e-bike (outside of it being extremely frustrating and inconvenient). Someone could steal your e-bike every 6 months or so and you likely will still be spending FARRRRRR less buying a new/used electric bicycle than you would just owning a car and using it and then having to deal with the insane never ending bullshit costs of keeping a car on the road.

So idk, build up a savings so you can replace your e-bike if you need to and then just use it. So long as you get a years use out of it or so it has already earned you quite a bit of money from cutting car costs.

Get one of those e-bikes with a removable battery with a key lock, then take your battery so if someone steals your bicycle they can’t steal the actually expensive part.

[–] leviathan3k@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"It doesn't matter if someone occasionally steals your bike" is.. one hell of a crap take.

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Why? Using a car you can lock up seems like a better alternative intuitively, I am pointing out that other than the emotional distress of having an object of yours stolen, owning a car is a regular rolling disaster of costs and suffering that dwarfs somebody running off with your $800 used e-bike every couple of months.

How is this a bad take? It is literally a documented phenomena that people don’t rationally take into account how expensive owning and using a car is.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago

I use an Oxford Monster chain and U lock. I park my bike in highly visible areas. Registered it with 529 garage and have the tracking sticker on it. And if I'm really sketched out, I activate a bike alarm that is ungodly loud.

Mostly, it's about making your bike harder to steal. Cutting through 12mm chain and a standard ulock sucks. Getting caught with it being easily identified on 529 makes it risky to steal and easy to be returned. Some cities also do bike valet or bike lockers.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

we are already starting to see EVs save people money on gas and service, and they are stupidly fast

there was an article on measurable air pollution improvements in I think San Francisco, attributed to EV use
the stupidity on industrial policy gets me: EVs are a new industry growing fast, and Chinese companies are growing fastest. Effing idiots want to throw away the chances for American companies to get into the new market. Sure, be more profitable for the next quarter while watching your legacy market dry up and don’t even try to make your mark. Somehow this is all twisted up in Sinophobia and racism and we’re in Bizarro World where everything is opposite

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I have arrived! Both parties are the same! No affordable EV's for you! Keep slurrrrping that petrol!

Hike tariffs on Chinese EVs, Senate Democrats urge Biden administration

"Artificially low-priced Chinese EVs flooding the U.S. would cost thousands of American jobs and endanger the survival of the U.S. automotive industry as a whole."

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 1 points 7 months ago

I agree, but the real problem with ebikes over light motorcycles is the range. Trying to get an ebike with decent speed and range costs a fortune and the range and speed is still incredibly limited for long trips.

You also can't ride them on the road where I live, a point that I've been trying to get through to one of my roommates.