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this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2024
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They idolize left authoritarians. And their talking points are summed up by if "the west" says it, the opposite is true. And they will argue with you.
So fascism is a term that is thrown around incorrectly a lot, blocking these people does help improve your Lemmy experience.
Based on my observations, some of them support present and past left-authoritarians, but most don't. They're definitely critical of the west, but I think there's room for that criticism here.
It's kind of funny when they post about Ukraine. They're anti-NATO and anti-Putin, so they sometimes seem confused which side they're on.
That is your confusion, my friend. You think you have to pick one of two sides, and they know differently.
2 party conflicts generally have 2 sides to choose from. I’d like to support Poland in the war between Ukraine and Russia but the mechanics of the act aren’t readily apparent.
Right. It's not a 2-party conflict. There are two countries, but within each country are many groups of people with wildly different priorities.
For example... Does a military general worry much if one farm house is destroyed? Of course not. But the farmer sure does. We can argue about whose fault it is, Russia or Ukraine, but that doesn't bring back the property.
Sure, but subdividing isn’t particularly useful in this case. Russia quashes dissent with jail time, effectively creating a cohesive group through violence. Ukraine is a united front because it has to be. If someone were to begin talking about dissidents, that’d be an entirely different, and valuable, conversation. Speaking about the farmer whose barn was torched and grain stolen is still, to most, just talking about Ukraine.
An army general has vastly different goals than a farmer, or a grandmother, or an elementary school student, or even a private first class. This is not really debatable, is it?
What?
I am curious why you think people need to pick sides. And why you think there are only two sides. It's such a peculiar thing, and it suggests that you want polarization so you make simple arguments. But reality is complex.
I didn't say or suggest people need to pick a side.
Ah, maybe I clicked on the wrong thing. My apologies.
You are very correct. This is why we argue so much on Lemmy; so many people think you have to pick between two sides.