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Twitter did eventually get its shit together and lift the API limits on NERV’s accounts, but people on JP Twitter were furious, and “Elon” in Japanese (イーロン) was trending, with people basically cussing him out for effing up Twitter by limiting NERV and getting rid of the chronological timeline. Folks were also upset at all the “reply zombies” (blue check bot accounts) commenting complete garbage like “nice” and “happy new year” in posts about the earthquake.
As for misinformation, the evening of the quake “人工地震” (manmade earthquake) was trending on Twitter, and NHK news yesterday actually had a segment on last night explaining that no, the quake was not manmade, and that misinformation was being spread on Twitter.
So how have Twitter fucked up here then? NERV isn't a government body, it isn't an official public safety channel, it's a private not for profit organisation. The official government ones already have no limits, it's just everyone in Japan uses NERV because they're so damned good.
Now, I don't agree with API charges (much like data charges for internet, they aren't proportionate to cost) but setting that aside, NERV didn't automatically deserve the exemption and never even tried to get it.
Musk has still made a shit system, but it's not shit because of this event.
Lol how do you figure my comment is defending Musk against criticism? I literally said his version of the website is shit.
The point I'm making is that the criticism isn't really valid here. NERV are not an official public safety channel.
People are making out like it's the same as Verizon and the California firefighters when dealing with wildfires, but the difference is that firefighters are an official body.
Musk is shit, charging for API is shitty in general, but you can't claim "they're inhibiting public safety information!" when strictly speaking NERV is more like an overgrown Facebook group (although, that cannot diminish how awesome they are).
Kid named Steve Huffman
Aka Musk fanboi
Steve Huffman did it first
Did he? I thought Twitter started API charges first.
This article says Musk announced it in February last year: https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-data-api-prices-out-nearly-everyone/
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And THAT’S why Twitter finally gave them a “Public Utility App” status and lifted their API limits after people started kicking up a fuss. 🙄
No, they did it because:
Also the public backlash, like you said.
You're talking to a brick wall.
Elon bad, Twitter bad. Any comment that doesn't clearly say this and still mentions the human/service is instantly downvoted without another thought.
I know lol but I like to say my piece, if only because saying it helps form the ideas more fully.
I do the same, not like the downvotes mean anything to me.
Looking at how many there are with 0 replies though, I'd happily bet at least a couple are bots.
I hope I'm wrong though.
Nah I think they're people, it's people who like to jump on downvote trains. Most people just lurk and move on though.
But yeah, lemmy votes are pretty meaningless in the long run - and that's a good thing. All the things reddit did with votes (hiding comments, rate limiting) were some of the first steps that made the site shit. Also, if lemmy votes were meaningful, they'd have a far bigger problem with vote manipulation across multiple instances.
Yeah, not a lot of mental flexibility here. They're probably the same people who thought musk was going to save the world a few years ago and now feel angry and betrayed that he turned out to be just another greedy dumb shit.
Lmfao no I've always been calling out Musk's bullshit. I call out bullshit wherever I see it, which is why I'm replying to you right now.