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[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The problem I have with the "both sides" argument is while I agree we should not approve of Hamas' actions, Israel routinely murders civilians without consequence. We tut and tsk but we still send them basically unlimited aid and approval.

Yes both sides behave badly but one side does so with our explicit support.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Don't forget how Israel sells world-class spyware to despots and dictators, who use it to terrorise journalists and political opponents.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Including their supposed arch nemesis in Saudi Arabia, who used their tech to kill Khashoggi

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

We (the EU at least) also send a lot of aid to Palestinians.

Israel should be sanctioned and decolonized like South Africa was.

And I, for one, believe that that would have happened a long time ago if the Palestinians had followed the Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi playbook.

Perhaps I am wrong. Like the rest of the world, I also don't have the solution for this quagmire.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

The experiment has actually been running already. The Gaza Strip is run by Hamas, which is violent and pushes back against Israel however they can. The West Bank is run by Fatah, which has been attempting to keep good relations with Israel and work with them.

Despite that, the West Bank has seen a continuing encroachment of illegal Israeli settlers, continuing violence directed at Palestinians, both by the settlers moving in there and by the Israeli army. The reason the border with Gaza was so ill-defended was because Netanyahu had moved much of the force usually stationed there into the West Bank. Palestinian deaths in the West Bank has been rising.

I don't think the Mahatma Ghandi approach is likely to work in the Middle East. At least no better than any other approach people have been trying has been working there.

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Development aid, not weapons as the west supplies to Israel. But otherwise you're right. The whole region should be disarmed.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The only way to disarm "the whole region" would be to basically level all of it and make it totally uninhabitable.

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

That thought also crossed my mind.

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago

I’m not saying it’s the right move

But it would solve a whole lot of issues.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Has anyone ever heard of BDS?!?

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

The US sends aid to palestine as well, just nowhere near as much as we do to israel.

And there isn't a good solution. No matter what, everybody will be mad. Mad and not violent would be nice, though.

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