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Which of the two major parties stands against capitalism again?
Neither, unfortunately, but we have a two-party system, and one side is openly fascist, so I would advise that anyone who doesn't like fascism vote for the other non-fascist (arguably less-fascist) party.
I don't like voting for the "lesser evil" and wish things were better, but voting for unviable candidates out of a sense of blind idealism is worse, because it empowers the most regressive movements to succeed.
We don't currently live in a real democracy, but we have a chance to turn things around. If you decide to give up and let the fascists win, you're one of the bad guys.
We need Ranked Choice Voting and Mixed Member Proportional districting to reduce the need for strategic voting.
Sure, that's obvious to you and me, as seasoned internet users. But we can't expect lawyers and career politicians to understand such things. They must be ignoring it by accident.
One of them is the "Openly advocates for billionaires" party and the other is the "Discretely advocates for billionaires" party.
Which third party has a chance to actually win or do something and isn't just throwing your vote out?
All of them, complain about non-voters not voters.
Okay let's see. We have a large part of the population who just won't vote. Voter apathy is real.
Of the Democrats and Republicans, you have about 2/3 of each party that are voting like it's a sports team. They'll never change and they'll never think.
The thinking people who vote for each party understand that the third party has no chance and they're trying to sway things generally in their direction.
So the third party victory plan, if I have it correct, is to overcome voter apathy, and also to sway some people who are voting like a sports team from both parties.
If that's your plan for victory, then you don't have a plan for victory. And you're just wasting your vote.
Call me cynical, but I think third parties are funded by people outside the country to sway the election. Just like they only thaw out Jill Stein every 4 years to steal votes from the Democrats, and then they park her in a Russian freezer somewhere for the rest of the time.
Part of building a viable alternative is getting enough votes for consistant ballot access and other resources that are afforded by default to the two primary parties. Winning comes in degrees.
Yet Jill Stein vanishes for four years between Presidential elections and does absolutely nothing to support a third party coalition at the state and local level.
And she somehow deserves your vote for simply not being a D or R? Yeah nah.
She basically works for Russia.
If that was really the strategy they would start with local elections.
Idk about your state, but that is the case here in MD with Greens and the Working Class Party. Also true for the Working Families Party in other states. Presidential elections have a purpose in generating attention, though.
You got me to learn something new today!
I'm not sure I fully understood that . But the first step in any change is ranked choice voting. If we had that then we could do three parties or more.
As it stands, we've devolved into a two-party system and neither party will give up control.
"They won't actually fix anything but they might win" is an unbelievably terrible argument
No. It's "which of these two horrible choices might we influence to make some progress"
You don't get a third choice for the big things. It's mathematically and literally impossible.
Which anti-capitalist third-party has even a 0.000001% chance of winning enough seats to be an impediment to Trump?
Why do you believe Trump losing the presidency will change anything?
Voting blue donkey slows the slide, it doesn't stop it. Remember they are the pall in the system
Trump was already voted out once; and in the intervening four years the Democrats proved themselves to be incapable of impeding Trump.
How many boats of civilians did Binlden order to be sunk? How many heads of state did he kidnap or assassinate in wars of choice? How many American cities did he occupy with military units? How many of his political opponents did he have the justice department charge with baseless crimes? How many Nazis did he dine with?
The Dems piss me off, but saying the only reasons to say they're no different than the Republicans are:
Being a fucking idiot ;or
Atremptingto prop up the GOP by convincing leftists not to vote against them.
If the goal is to change the system then voting for either one will never get you to your goal.
I want the current 2 party system to die. And that can only happen if a third party wins. That's in my opinion the highest priority item.
If you have a path to change the system of governance, that could be worth pursuing. But voting isnβt a path to that - just a form of harm reduction within the system.
You still buy groceries - even though you may hate the process of handing over your net worth for something that helps sustain your life and want to change that.
Voting is still worth doing, but certainly not all one should do.
One of the parties wants it regulated slightly. The other one would allow lead in baby formula if it increased profit.
Oh is it time for "Both Sides" already? Forgot to mark my calendar
It's always time for bOtH sIdEs, because BoTh keep bOtHiNg.
Yes, i know one is pro-church and the other is pro-trans.
My problem is that they are BoTh anti-union and pro-Epstein. That's the rub.
Pro-trans? My nuts, they were pro trans when they could use that as a tool to get votes, then they dropped them like a stone the second trump won again to try and pull votes from the right. Same thing they've been doing with POCs since like the 70s, they don't care they just want your votes to keep the insider trading machine rolling.
What's more they (and by "they" I mean BoTh of them) actually have an incentive NOT to fix anything, at least not in any meaningful way, because if say, the Ds actually do get guns banned (or Rs and abortion, etc), then they can't run on it again in the future and that's one less wedge issue to indoctrinate you into the color cult with.
Just make sure that when youβre candidate wins you go to brunch or the fascists will hear your protest and youβll get fascism again.
Which third party is against capitalism? Legit curious.
The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL)
There are a few. Off the top of my head the Green Party is the biggest one, and the Labor Party is having a resurgence.
If just 1% of the green party voters in Florida had voted for Gore, George W Bush would never have been President and we wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq or opened a torture camp in Cuba.
Isn't it great those people voted for Nader.