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this is bad faith, you know full well that people are making the arguments I stated in this very thread and others on the subject.
The communes make up 1% of the labor force of Venezuela. The (now entirely American controlled and dictated) oil industry is around 16-18% of the labor force when including secondary/tertiary support industries and 25-50% of the Venezuelan economy and 95% of its exports. Who do you think wins this one when you take into account who PSUV is siding with and the imperialist money flowing into the economy now?
I am not saying that, the chavistas aren't saying that and I don't particularly care about what anybody else in this forum is saying, because that is not what I am arguing or have ever argued.
My mistake though, I took 'they' as a snipe at me.
I agree, the people that are saying that, if they are, are wrong.
Hell yeah, something actually resembling a real argument. This is potentially some ultra shit, but it's genuinely a good point.
Agreed. It certainly doesn't look very good or bode well for the future. However, Chevron already had a full monopoly on oil production in Venezuela. If the communes have no power now, then they had no power before either, and the whole thing was a sham. So either they do have power now, as they did before, and it remains to be seen if this arrangement goes the way of the Chinese or the Soviets or they were never socialist and nothing has been fundamentally lost.