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They want AGI, not LLMs. They're pretty much betting everything on getting there first knowing that if they do it'll pay them back a millionfold what they invested up front. They're taking a massive risk for a potentially massive reward. They're coaching a college kid to become a professional athlete. It's not profitable yet but they're investing heavily in them in the hopes that one day it will be.
To paraphrase Cory Doctrow, you can keep breeding faster & faster horses, but they will never foal a locomotive.
No, they're coaching a spreadsheet to become a professional athlete.
Exactly LLM are unable to become AGI. So it just them wasting trillions on something that can never advance to what they want.
You could not possibly know that. You're attributing to it a probability of zero and zero is an extreme number. Unlikely is a claim you can defend. Zero you cannot.
We can know that because a massive spreadsheet has no more ability to think than a tiny spreadsheet.
No matter how big the spreadsheet gets, it is still fundamentally a spreadsheet.
yep it can be programmed to pretend to be agi and if it was agi they would also know that 90% of the would problems are the epstein class and by default would remove them even if they put gaurdrails in place to prevent this then the agi would not be real agi then if they were truth seeking maximizing good for humanity if they do not target the source of most of the the world evil then the agi is evil and anti human and thus humans would be in danger. lets see if agi is programmed to be on human side or the epstein side.
No, we all know that for certain. AGI is a pipe dream that’s why they made up the term AGI so they could act like LLMs were anywhere close to movie AI and not just slightly improved Watson (the model that beat Ken Jennings at Jeopardy). AI has been around for 70 years and we are no closer to thinking computers now than we were then.
The term AGI was first used in 1997 by Mark Avrum Gubrud in an article named ‘Nanotechnology and international security’
I fail to see how this disproves my point.
The term AGI was coined far before LLMs even existed.
That doesn’t change how it’s being used or why it was invented.
I'm only countering your claim where you seem to be suggesting that the term AGI was made up to market LLMs. It wasn't - that term has existed for a long time.
You are glomming onto a slightly poor wording choice on my part because you are wrong and desperate to salvage a win from this conversation and I wish you could just admit it.
That slightly poor wording choice was my entire point.
I know, your whole point is missing mine.
There's nothing else in your reply for me to respond to. I made a comment about statistical probabilities and you responded with ramblings about AGI that in no way address anything I said. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm not interested in trying to convince you otherwise.
ELIZA effect is not and will never be AGI.