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Far-right Israelis call for NAZA co-director to be hanged in protest outside parents' home
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The government is fascistic. The people in the government, and those who support it, are fascists. "Society", means all the people together, just like in the above comment, "Israelis" are all the citizens.
"All the citizens of a place" is not a group you can just bunch up, that's just racism.
There isn't actually anything connecting them, apart from birthplace.
Bunch up groups with real stuff they have in common: Beliefs (Zionism in this case), or money (rich people and their suck ups), or real societal role (cops, military).
Those things are real. "Nationality" (one step removed from "race") is not real. Don't fall for the intellectual trap, that any of that matters as to which people are "good" or "bad
To be an Israeli "citizen" is (obviously I'm not speaking of children) to knowingly live on occupied land built on destroyed villages because the society believes you are superior to the natives you hold on literal ghettos and concentration camps while slowly exterminating them.
If you're not opposed to what your "fascist government" is doing, being a citizen doesn't absolve you. The government as a concept is not responsible, it's people that enable it.
The German society was correctly blamed for Nazism, not just Adolf and friends. Israeli society would need to a similar dezionification.
The majority of them agree with the government, the majority of people protesting Netanyahu are upset he didn't do enough. It's a supremacist society of child killers, they set up camping chairs and eat popcorn while watching bombs fall on children, they spit on us and attack non Jews openly, and their military defends them from consequences. It's a society that needs fixing, not just a government.
Actually, and I can't believe my fucking eyes and having to write this... In this case, that is literally not the thing connecting them. The majority of Israeli citizens are not born in Palestine, the majority hold at least one other citizenship and what connects them is their belief that their ethno-religious group was promised the land of Palestine and they must subjugate the natives and take it from them.
They are racist. To be a Zionist is racist. To exist and partake of a society built on killing and stealing from Palestinians is racist. Pointing it out is not.
Oh you're doing the technically correct thing, even though you brought up citizens and I spoke only of society.
Israeli society, by definition, are Zionists. That is what I'm bunching them up with, and you're twisting what I said to call me racist against Zionists.
I repeat what I said, it's a sick supremacist society. I never brought up nationality and your attempt to argue that society means nationality is idiotic.
For the record, you're right after all, I was assuming things about Israel (that it's a country with more than one generation of people having lived there lol) that are apparently untrue.
What you said about them all having more than one citizenship, is really interesting and telling of the reality there.
This is the comment of the interaction I realized how that place just isn't a normal country.
Society being roughly the same thing with nationality, is just the truth of other, poorer places. The privilege to "be able to leave", is not universal, and also currently under attack btw, which is why I was wrongly trying to extend grace to such people over there.
Israel is a fake country though, apparently (not snark, I mean it word for word), and I was extending grace to a 100 year-old settler-colonial rich-guy sadism-retreat.
You are a good person who took criticism that contained anger and looked it up instead of blindly repeating what you've previously heard just to win an argument. I was not the most graceful, but you considered what I'm saying instead of how I said it.
I've tagged you as an actual ally. I hope we can fight for a better future together.
Those more extreme than Netanyahu are at least still a minority, albeit empowered by their position in the coalition. The majority of the protests against Netanyahu come from the same kind of centrists as the Americans you saw protesting Trump in 2017, who objected to the fascist boomerang coming around to hit them but wouldn't have raised nearly as much of a fuss about deportations and overseas assassination campaigns if Hillary Clinton had been the one behind them.
I think it's all too easy to imagine a mass of undifferentiated monsters rather than confronting the connection between unfortunately familiar patterns of political engagement and the slaughter they cause, just because that connection is more obvious closer to the blade of the imperialist knife. Plenty of militaristic genocide deniers are just as much liberal progressives as their counterparts in western countries until the switch flips back to their military brainwashing and they start talking about security guarantees and buffer zones.
Maybe I'm naive for believing that people can change, but I don't think that everyone who's been sold on the lie that forever war is the only way for them to be safe is as committed to violence as the backyard terrorists with lawn chairs.
like 15%, but they’re there. Any time you get a group that big there’s going to be dissenters. There’s a far right, a mid-right and some centre-right moderates. No one left of that would want to live there in the first place. There's like a slim 15% that aren't fully supporting what's going on there. Remember, the vast majority of Jews, don't live in Israel. The few who do are a self-selected group who tend toward ethno-nationalism and/or religious nationalism. It's not a race thing, it's not "the Jews," and it's actually not unreasonable to be very suspect of Israeli nationals, though it's very wrong to associate diaspora Jews with that perspective. Wealthy Zionists in other countries definitely are part of it, but they're more of a loud and influential minority outside Israel. It's actually a far cry from disparaging all Jews, because again, most Jewish people, aren't Israeli and have either left as soon as they could, our never were in the first place, and Israel the state is far from representative of the whole ethnic/religious group as a whole.
I mean, I fully agree with what you're saying, as long as this sentence is true:
"Israelites who desire to leave Israel, can do so".
Is it? I come from a poorer country, where "leaving" is something many people want to do, but not so many can. It takes a lot of money and/or financial security to leave your homeland, in our case, and that includes the wealthier part of European countries, moving to the less wealthy ones. Same currency, no passport required, and it's still difficult.
Maybe Israel is different, being a younger, richer, more artificially developed country (mostly non-natives). I have no idea.
I mean it literally, when I say this:
As a thought, all that sounds to me "too convenient to be true", but boy, do you find me lacking in historical context.
You're right, and there are indeed some left-leaning Israelis that live there, have a hard time getting out, and oppose the majority. There is, however, a very supportive pipeline out for most in that most have family elsewhere that will sponsor their emigration and extensive diaspora communities to support them. The percentage of left leaning Israelis that remain Israeli is very small because it's relatively easy for them to leave compared to many countries, and in recent history they've enjoyed relative freedom of movement in wealthy western countries. It's a unique situation. Meanwhile there's a number of programs within Israel and in other countries to help encourage more nationalist-minded Jewish people from around the world to resettle in Israel.
The part that's hard for some people to wrap there head around is that there's actually institutional infrastructure to aid inward migration of right wingers and outward migration of everyone else, so you kind of have a distilled right-wing oriented culture within the country. It's not a normal circumstance that you would find in most places where there's a high level of social and institutional friction that keeps the ratio more balanced. The ones stuck are the ones with so little social and financial means, they're politically too marginal to matter. I'm definitely sympathetic to those poor souls, but numerically, politically, and culturally too insignificant to count. There's a better than 90% chance if you meet an Israeli, they're proud of what their government is doing. That by no means reflects the sentiment of Jews worldwide