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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 86 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Why is anyone watching that garbage?

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Some people are just obsessed with it. I never got into it, I even tried to watch it on acid and it still didn't interest me, btw don't do acid and go to a movie theater. I almost walked out of watching Tropic Thunder because I was like wtf is this in the character intros, so yeah acid isn't always great for public stuff.

Anyway the funny was my ex-fiance was really into HP, one day she asks if she can read the books for me. I said okay. Then ironically she decides the perfect time is when I'm gaming with my buddies online. I still get jokes about it to this day, they were all laughing their asses off and I'm trying to keep a straight face like this is fine.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I enjoyed it as a kid. As an adult, the flaws are really hard to look past. From the goblins with massive noses that run the wizarding worlds economy, and is in kahoots with wizard Hitler, to the eugenics related hereditarianism views, etc. etc.

Every single woman character in her books are ridiculed, or plain evil, if they take up space at all. There are like three non-white women, two are basically clones. And every single character is good or evil based on genes. Harry is a mix of both his parents, having personality traits from both, despite never having met them. That’s not how things work.

It perfectly explains why Rowling pushes the politics she does. Her ideology is based on the long since discredited sciences of the early to mid 1900s, the stuff the Nazis were basing their ubermensch stuff on. Also explains why they so readily go hand in hand with neo-Nazis.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

to the eugenics related hereditarianism views, etc. etc.

Wasn't it the evil people who held those views, and the good people found them abhorrent?

That's like criticizing Tolkien because Sauron wanted to dominate the world...

(I'm not comparing Rowling to Tolkien. I think she's an awful person and her writing is mid at best; the entire franchise surviving entirely on nostalgia and a huge marketing budget. But let's not focus our criticism on stupid thing like "the bad guys had evil worldviews!")

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[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Every single woman character in her books are ridiculed, or plain evil, if they take up space at all.

Hermione is a hero, professor McGonagall is loved by everyone, as well as Molly Weasley and so on.

From the goblins with massive noses that run the wizarding worlds economy, and is in kahoots with wizard Hitler

Just a couple of years ago "people with massive noses" having kahoots with Hitler would be oxymoron.
But now, after genocide of Palestinians...

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Hermione was ridiculed for thinking House Elves shouldn't be slaves. Even by her own friends.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 7 points 4 days ago (29 children)

You're right, that was hyperbole. What I should've written is "every character that expresses traditionally feminine interests", save for of course, the tradwife, like Molly Weasley whose entire character is just being a mother. Does she have interests beyond being a mother? No, with seven children who has time to be a person?

Hermione doesn't engage with anything traditionally feminine, she's a "not-like-other-girls" type character, hell she doesn't really have any friends that aren't boys. Even so, she's often not taken seriously. She's mocked for studying hard, and she's mocked for her anti-slavery coalition, which people only really join half-heartedly in order to placate her.

There's obviously Dolores Umbridge. She's into cute, frilly, fluffy, pink things. She's also a sadist. Her punishment for being bad is to be carried off by centaurs to get raped in a forest.

Luna Lovegood was introduced as another character to be bullied, and she remains on the outskirts throughout the book, but Rowling softened up on her once she got extremely popular with the fans of the series.

Just a couple of years ago "people with massive noses" having kahoots with Hitler would be oxymoron.But now, after genocide of Palestinians...

Ah right, the massive genocide of Jews, disabled people, LGBTQ+ people, and other minorities back in the mid 1900s was okay because the Israeli state is now running a genocide of their own. Rowling was correct to be antisemitic actually!

[–] kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hermione doesn’t engage with anything traditionally feminine

She actually does, in the ballroom party thing - a beautiful dress and hair, taking a feminine role as a beautiful lady, and all that. That does not invalidate your point though, since there being a single instance (I could think of), just highlights what you said.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah yeah, I'd forgotten about that. Pulled up the book to that chapter, and came across this

“Can Dobby give Harry Potter his present?” he squeaked tentatively.

“’Course you can,” said Harry. “Er . . . I’ve got something for you too.”

It was a lie; he hadn’t bought anything for Dobby at all, but he quickly opened his trunk and pulled out a particularly knobbly rolled-up pair of socks. They were his oldest and foulest, mustard yellow, and had once belonged to Uncle Vernon. The reason they were extra-knobbly was that Harry had been using them to cushion his Sneakoscope for over a year now. He pulled out the Sneakoscope and handed the socks to Dobby, saying, “Sorry, I forgot to wrap them. . . .”

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Dobby now handed Harry a small package, which turned out to be — socks.

“Dobby is making them himself, sir!” the elf said happily. “He is buying the wool out of his wages, sir!”

The left sock was bright red and had a pattern of broomsticks upon it; the right sock was green with a pattern of Snitches.

“They’re . . . they’re really . . . well, thanks, Dobby,” said Harry, and he pulled them on, causing Dobby’s eyes to leak with happiness again.

A boy with a vault full of gold, couldn't give his supposed friend something better than his uncle's knobbly, "oldest and foulest, mustard yellow" socks. His slave friend appreciates it nonetheless, but like, surely he had nicer socks?

I can't with this author. The fact that at the end of all of this, nothing has changed; people's worth is still determined by breeding and bloodline, the slave race is still enslaved, just kind of makes the entire journey seem pointless to me.

Oh yeah, you killed wizard-Hitler but the wizard-nazi ideology is not just at large, but commonly practised by everyone, including by the good-guy rich-orphan turned wizard cop and his friends.

[–] kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That sort of stuff just flew past, when you were a kid at the time. I always hated how the house elves were treated, but never could put it into words... But yeah, the more you look into the series as an adult, the worse it just gets. And that whole quote... y i k e s.

Fuck Rowling, I hope that piece of trash hits her toes in the sharpest corner.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. I enjoyed these books as a kid, which makes sense because I was oblivious to the prejudices of society. One could argue that maybe Rowling was too, but given her actions I just don't believe that.

[–] kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

If she did not see them, and when she finally did, instead of aknowledging bad things as bad, she just jumped head first into embracing the prejudices herself. Either way, it does not paint a good picture of her character.

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