I used to work in schools IT and I managed to get a lot of FOSS tools into regular use amongst both staff and students; Audacity, Libre Office, Firefox, even Debian in a few IT labs... but the one that never stuck was GIMP because no teacher is going to tell their class they'll be using GIMP today.

I know this is a tired point and will probably never be fixed, but that name causes more problems than anything else.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I only learned about this "negative connotation" from people yelling about how GIMP name is bad.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I work in municipal government, and I just renamed the shortcuts on my work computer to avoid having to explain it to another mayor or councilmember. I think they're adding Photoshop to the bufget anyway next year. GIMP is good for free, but I have to admit Photoshop really is the king of photo editors.

I do really like Inkscape though.

The FOSS software I find to be the most impressive, however, is QGIS. I have ArcGIS and QGIS both installed on my machine and use them both heavily. For data processing, I usually go with QGIS, but then I make most of my deliverables in ArcGIS because it has a way better layout editor and lots of other software and angencies require me to use ESRI REST services.

But I can go with the cheapest ESRI licenses because I don't have to pay an extra 4 grand a year for the "Erase" tool when I can punch a hole in a shapefile in QGIS for free. And I openly said as much in my last meeting with ESRI when they were trying to get me to upgrade.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is always interesting to hear because as someone who went school in a non English speaking country, GIMP was obviously never an issue. In most of the world the name isn't an issue.

I only learned about that alternative meaning years later.

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

But for millions of people it is… the fact that it isn’t for some cultures does not negate the influence for those where it is. Companies like Apple will skip numbers and names if it’s a problem in one place (like say China) because they realize more adoption is useful. Old Gimp heads though just whine about America or some shit and wonder why nobody fucking uses it after 30 years.

Everything about this project is always saying they’re looking for input and design ideas but their old-ass users shoot down every person that has anything to say, many of whom have ideas from working as actual professionals for those same thirty years.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

monkey paw curls, we keep it gimp but pronounce it gimp

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

gimp

G I M P

G(ee) I (A)M P(ee)

...

[–] cabbagepatchcrabs@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 month ago

How dare you make me sound that out in my head.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Well shit, I never cared about the name but this convinced me because adoption and teaching about FOSS matters more.

[–] polotype@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could you eli5 why gimp doesn't work as a name, i genuenly don't know...

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s a derogatory term as well as a BDSM term.

[–] polotype@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ahhh ok noted

[–] Piatro@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Genuine question, how did you know BDSM but not gimp?

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

One can know about a general topic and not know the details of the topic.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it derogatory?

Definitely thought it was a humiliation thing

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Some consider it an ableist term

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

proffessors could say "we'll be using Gnu Image processing" or "Gnu Imp" if they wanted to get lame about it. The real big knoggin move is to just call it GIMP and silently dare your students to act like children

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tell me you've never tried to control a class of teenagers without telling me you've never tried to control a class of teenagers.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Never a class bigger than 12. But i did it at Scout camp and we were using knives and rope and fire so maybe they were more willing to be cool because i was visibly armed and dangerous

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Kids would eat you alive.

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What puritanism does to a mf

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

We should rename it the Gnu Image Leveraging Framework.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep, always felt the same way. Can’t be seriously suggested in a professional environment simply because of its name. Whole project been shooting itself in the foot with a machine gun since day 1.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's a meme floating about somewhere that goes:

Windows Tool: Producix Pro for Business 2024

MacOS Tool: Sweesh

Linux Tool: klitoris

and this kinda feels like that.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I tried Debian for two hours and said fuck this and I went straight back to Ubuntu. I might try it again when I know more about it. For now I'm still very much a noob. Debian's still Ubuntu's boring cousin to me and I'm working on making it the fun one I want to invite over.