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[–] kablez@lemmy.world 94 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

How many lives did Luigi save in the weeks afterwards when the health insurance companies took notice?

You could argue that on balance, he was actually saving lives. Just like soldiers do in war. Just like police do in the street.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Police save lives in the streets? Barely.

I think I remember reading that only 2 or 3 % of major crimes get solved by police officers based on a study I read a while back. https://prismreports.org/2022/02/23/police-dont-stop-crime-but-you-wouldnt-know-it-from-the-news/

The best way to prevent crime is to give peoplw what they need to survive , thrive and be happy. Like universal mental and health care, access to brith controls, housing, labor that actually helps your community and has reasonable hours, etc... Social programs that give workers what they need will ALWAYS do far more to prevent people from losing their lives than police ever have or ever will.

Thats why crimes amongst those who are very rich tend to be financial crimes like not providing workers with protective equipment or machinery, tax evasion and wage theft but rarely ever violent crime. Crimes amongst the poor tend to be a notably larger combination of both. Ya, because if youve been impoverished, ignored, and had your psychological issues ignored your whole life crimes of violence and even robbery dont seem like the worse idea.

Im not advocating for violent crime though Im just saying that if we give people what they need to be happy in life? Theyll rarely ever resort to viopent crime that will end the lives of other people. THAT is how you save lives . Not more police. Not police reforms. Not even reforms in general. But a complete revolution of society that places humanity and humanity's needs at the centre of everything we plan and do....but will this happen?...Hmmm welp we have to see if humanity wants this change to happen

Very few rich kids with loving parents, parents that make time for those kids, ever end up growing up and joining into a violent trafficking, drug manufacturing and drug distribution gangs right?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 50 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

We also don't know that it was Luigi. It was someone for sure, but Luigi could easily have been framed. Circumstances were a bit too perfect and the chain of custody of the evidence was all messed up IIRC

Not saying it was definitely someone else, but I reckon there's reasonable doubt.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

Luigi and I were playing Mario Kart at the time.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Also the 11‑Minute Bodycam Gap.

"The “gap” refers to an approximately 11-minute period during Luigi Mangione’s December 2024 arrest in Altoona when Officer Christy Wasser’s body camera was turned off while police transported him and/or evidence from the McDonald’s to the police station."

https://www.crbcnews.com/articles/693cd8e8d9a90023d32e158f

11 minutes sounds like exactly how much time it would take to plant fake evidence.

[–] vogi@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okey, but why would they choose to frame somebody that hot?!

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

"Hello Mr. Mangioni, DA assistant Rivers here...ummm ....we know you didnt commit that crime-uhh well I know you didnt. Because I pulled a few strings and made all that evidence magically appear against you. Now, listen, I can make ALL this 'evidence' magically disappear if you give me ...something that you have that I NEED🤤 (if you know what I mean) Mmmmmhmm... So, what do you say?"

Thats probably how the conversation went .🤷🏿‍♂️

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Just like soldiers do in war. Just like police do in the street.

Woah woah woah, use whatever justification you like, but you really shouldn't put criminals and murderers on the same level as actual heroes like Luigi Mangione.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah you got me there. I was speaking from a legal and moral theory perspective. It makes me cringe thinking I described police in the positive. But hey, theoretically they're supposed to stop the bad guys right? Not be their enablers lol

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So are you saying he's guilty? Luigi says he didn't do it.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh no, he's innocent. But he's still a hero for being a scapegoat and enduring the false charges. I still regard him as a hero even though none of it was his choice and he was just some guy trying to grab some McDonald's.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago

Reading your comment be like

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was with you until this part

[–] trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think they're boot licking, I just think they're showing this is an argument that boot lickers make about cops. They're saying you can make the same argument here for Luigi, showing that the back-the-blue types make that argument hypocritically.