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How many lives did Luigi save in the weeks afterwards when the health insurance companies took notice?
You could argue that on balance, he was actually saving lives. Just like soldiers do in war. Just like police do in the street.
Police save lives in the streets? Barely.
I think I remember reading that only 2 or 3 % of major crimes get solved by police officers based on a study I read a while back. https://prismreports.org/2022/02/23/police-dont-stop-crime-but-you-wouldnt-know-it-from-the-news/
The best way to prevent crime is to give peoplw what they need to survive , thrive and be happy. Like universal mental and health care, access to brith controls, housing, labor that actually helps your community and has reasonable hours, etc... Social programs that give workers what they need will ALWAYS do far more to prevent people from losing their lives than police ever have or ever will.
Thats why crimes amongst those who are very rich tend to be financial crimes like not providing workers with protective equipment or machinery, tax evasion and wage theft but rarely ever violent crime. Crimes amongst the poor tend to be a notably larger combination of both. Ya, because if youve been impoverished, ignored, and had your psychological issues ignored your whole life crimes of violence and even robbery dont seem like the worse idea.
Im not advocating for violent crime though Im just saying that if we give people what they need to be happy in life? Theyll rarely ever resort to viopent crime that will end the lives of other people. THAT is how you save lives . Not more police. Not police reforms. Not even reforms in general. But a complete revolution of society that places humanity and humanity's needs at the centre of everything we plan and do....but will this happen?...Hmmm welp we have to see if humanity wants this change to happen
Very few rich kids with loving parents, parents that make time for those kids, ever end up growing up and joining into a violent trafficking, drug manufacturing and drug distribution gangs right?
We also don't know that it was Luigi. It was someone for sure, but Luigi could easily have been framed. Circumstances were a bit too perfect and the chain of custody of the evidence was all messed up IIRC
Not saying it was definitely someone else, but I reckon there's reasonable doubt.
Luigi and I were playing Mario Kart at the time.
Also the 11‑Minute Bodycam Gap.
"The “gap” refers to an approximately 11-minute period during Luigi Mangione’s December 2024 arrest in Altoona when Officer Christy Wasser’s body camera was turned off while police transported him and/or evidence from the McDonald’s to the police station."
https://www.crbcnews.com/articles/693cd8e8d9a90023d32e158f
11 minutes sounds like exactly how much time it would take to plant fake evidence.
Okey, but why would they choose to frame somebody that hot?!
"Hello Mr. Mangioni, DA assistant Rivers here...ummm ....we know you didnt commit that crime-uhh well I know you didnt. Because I pulled a few strings and made all that evidence magically appear against you. Now, listen, I can make ALL this 'evidence' magically disappear if you give me ...something that you have that I NEED🤤 (if you know what I mean) Mmmmmhmm... So, what do you say?"
Thats probably how the conversation went .🤷🏿♂️
Woah woah woah, use whatever justification you like, but you really shouldn't put criminals and murderers on the same level as actual heroes like Luigi Mangione.
Yeah you got me there. I was speaking from a legal and moral theory perspective. It makes me cringe thinking I described police in the positive. But hey, theoretically they're supposed to stop the bad guys right? Not be their enablers lol
So are you saying he's guilty? Luigi says he didn't do it.
Oh no, he's innocent. But he's still a hero for being a scapegoat and enduring the false charges. I still regard him as a hero even though none of it was his choice and he was just some guy trying to grab some McDonald's.
as much as I hate to say this, not all cops are bastards, this has been over generalizarion since the beginning and I can see that is unfortanely suprisngly close to accurate but not completely true
https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759
I've never come across this article. Unpleasant read, but a required and damn good one.
How many times have you watched a cop stop another cop? ... A few, perhaps. That's an OK cop.
Now, have you ever seen a cop stop and arrest another cop? Perhaps not. But if you have, maybe that's a good cop. Maybe. Because how many times did they turn away, pretend not to see it? We will never know.
In both cases the cop stopping another cop is going to be harassed by the force into quitting within 3 months. That's why ACAB: any that aren't get pushed out.
Its your opinion , why would you hate to say it ? own it, it's yours.
I see the full meaning of ACAB as: if you participate in a system widely regarded as championing bastard-like behaviour then you yourself are a bastard by proxy and/or association.
Some cops actively try to change the pervasive bastardishness, they are not cops for very long , the latest example.
Some cops are there because they need to feed their kids(or themselves), still bastards, but with a relatable reason (perhaps even approaching a viable excuse) as to why they continue to make that choice.
if your argument is that at any point in time, there is the possibility of a non-bastard cop existing because they haven't been murdered, exiled, scapegoated, indoctrinated. converted or quit yet....then yes that is technically correct.
This, like everything else, is subjective.
If you are rich and/or powerful enough to be considered inside the demographic the police were designed to actually protect (as opposed to control) then i'm sure it's a much less bastardlike experience.
It's not about the individuals and it never was. Officer friendly is still part of the carceral system that protects the rich from the poor but not the other way around.
Cops are human, they are trying to do the right thing, (mostly, even the actual bastards are mostly trying to do right by their community, everyone is the hero of their own story)
MCAB?
Reading your comment be like
I was with you until this part
I don't think they're boot licking, I just think they're showing this is an argument that boot lickers make about cops. They're saying you can make the same argument here for Luigi, showing that the back-the-blue types make that argument hypocritically.