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China being that low surprises me
bear in mind that china basically did the industrial revolution in like, a single generation..
if you go from people being subsistence farmers, to living in dogshit housing in dirty cities, to something that the rest of the world considers mind-bogglingly futuristic; all in such short time that your parents have photos of their childhood farm.. yeah capitalism probably seems pretty decent then.
It's still majority communist of course, but I think a part of it is just that political education and affiliation to the communist party isn't a mandatory requirement for the general population, so a lot of the population of the PRC is apolitical.
Also since the CPC runs things really well, (ie things like wages going up 4x in the past 30 years), politics becomes a less vital / life and death part of your life.
it's the only place where capitalism does more good than harm for the average person at the moment.
The PRC is not capitalist, it's a mixed economy where the socialist / state-planned sector predominates, and a smaller, restricted capitalist sector.
Is China State Capitalist?
I agree that China is not state capitalist, it very much is socialist. But I'd argue they use capitalism as a tool (not as an ideology).
I.e., use capitalist modes of market development to socialize production in new markets. Then socialize the capital after that's established. I see this as one of the ways they've developed their light industry sections
I'm gonna be honest, I haven't read all of your links, we may very well be mostly agreeing
We need to detangle "markets" from "capitalism," just like public ownership in capitalist economies is not "a slice of socialism." Economies are deeply interwoven and support the principal aspect of the economy, this is what determines identity. The US is not a socialist economy for having a public sector, nor is this public sector a socialist sector. There are private and public sectors, what determined the identity is the principal aspect, as well as the class that dominates the state.