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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 280 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Please, Mozilla, explain in detail exactly in which way the internet is changing again, that requires you to return to Faschitter? Please help me make sense of this.

To me it seems like they're really pushing for mass-market appeal right now compared to just maintaining or slowly growing their existing more dedicated/niche base.

You can see it with them adding widgets, a free VPN, more visibly advertising trackers blocked (at least on Android, not sure about iOS), rebranding with a new mascot, and now going back to a platform that still has a ton of user lock-in keeping people there. They're trying to pull in regular people, I presume so they don't become as dependent on a base that has more strongly held convictions that Mozilla has to comply with to keep its users.

If it works out for them, it'll be good for their long-term funding and security, market appeal, etc, but bad for users that care a lot more about fundamental principles.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sadly plenty of ppl still use Twitter, plenty of companies and celebs still doing their thing there. Why do we have to single out Firefox? It's not a company that as ideals like most people here do. Yeah their new stuff is definitely shady, but it's that for Chromium. I'll still use Firefox, this doesn't bother me at all, cuz honestly who gives a fuck. I get the optics, but we do not live in a perfect world of morals and ideals. I only have limited energy I can dish out and this affects me 0% so I'll put that much into it. People are addicted to being angry all the time...

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

My comment isn't really about them returning to X. It's about them blaming it on some type of sudden change in the internet that's supposedly happening "again", that's forcing them to return. Just be honest and say it's for the reason you mentioned, that they want to reach as many as possible. 👍

[–] pix_wbmr@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What money? Do they get paid to be on Xitter?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Always has been at any company.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You didn't state how much you are betting.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's more than one, but less than 6-7.

[–] zedgeist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who are you, to be so wise in the ways of counting?

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

In what world is 2 less than -1?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Cutting off Twitter means losing potential audience. It was an ideological stance when they did it, now nothing ideological is left at MozCorp.

The fuck you doing Kurt Vinnegut, speaking from fake lemmy profiles. I know it as you, Kurt. Admit your Kilgore trout@ i know your the same person! It just is as it he. Poo te weet! As I say it now. Fuck is time weird. A quake coming. And that's God's slapstick; our dumbasses.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really what real people.are left on twitter?

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nazis, and people okay with sharing space with nazis.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nazis and also Nazis. So not really people anyone should ever give a fuck about.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 3 points 1 week ago

Nazis do not deserve to be catered to or courted as an audience.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I know, it's a facetious comment meant to put them on the spot for blaming some sort of "change in the internet (again)".

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's potential users there, and ff isn't going to lose any users by rejoining.

[–] freudian_slop@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just can't imagine anyone is going to change to chrome because ff started posting to x.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because those are the only two bruises in existence...

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Basically, yes.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago

... aside from the soft forks.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 6 days ago

Not really. The soft forks are more like pre-packaged configurations than separate browsers. If ff dies all the forks die.

I've used LibreWolf for years now but I still consider myself to be using firefox.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

Brave?

Just kidding 😓

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just lost one now. How many did it gain?

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you switch to a chrome fork?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 6 days ago

These soft forks are more like pre-packaged configurations than another browser.