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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 281 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Please, Mozilla, explain in detail exactly in which way the internet is changing again, that requires you to return to Faschitter? Please help me make sense of this.

[–] pix_wbmr@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Always has been at any company.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You didn't state how much you are betting.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's more than one, but less than 6-7.

[–] zedgeist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who are you, to be so wise in the ways of counting?

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

In what world is 2 less than -1?

What money? Do they get paid to be on Xitter?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Cutting off Twitter means losing potential audience. It was an ideological stance when they did it, now nothing ideological is left at MozCorp.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Really what real people.are left on twitter?

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nazis, and people okay with sharing space with nazis.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nazis and also Nazis. So not really people anyone should ever give a fuck about.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 3 weeks ago

A lot of artists and weaboos.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 3 points 1 month ago

Nazis do not deserve to be catered to or courted as an audience.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I know, it's a facetious comment meant to put them on the spot for blaming some sort of "change in the internet (again)".

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fuck you doing Kurt Vinnegut, speaking from fake lemmy profiles. I know it as you, Kurt. Admit your Kilgore trout@ i know your the same person! It just is as it he. Poo te weet! As I say it now. Fuck is time weird. A quake coming. And that's God's slapstick; our dumbasses.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

:')

I wish I could have met him.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I remember being in my freshman year of college in what would be the most disastrous nest departures in human history and watching the Fox News report on Kurt Vonnegut, how scathing it was, and that led to me reading his books, because my identity at the time was anti-right, and because this I learned this really important shit at a critical point in my life because I identified with his words and characters and humor. Now I shitpost on the internet because I told my ROTC cadre that my nonexistent sister got me pregnant because I judged the wrath of my father more of a threat that the United States military. Counterintelligence is cool, bro. That's why I pee my pants, Billy Madison style, so these kids don't feel afraid to post their retarded ass shit, cuz at least they're not as stupid as my dumb ass, which is objectively the truth because God's a funny dick. Kids, amirite? At least I found Jesus by craning my neck, trying to find him.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

To me it seems like they're really pushing for mass-market appeal right now compared to just maintaining or slowly growing their existing more dedicated/niche base.

You can see it with them adding widgets, a free VPN, more visibly advertising trackers blocked (at least on Android, not sure about iOS), rebranding with a new mascot, and now going back to a platform that still has a ton of user lock-in keeping people there. They're trying to pull in regular people, I presume so they don't become as dependent on a base that has more strongly held convictions that Mozilla has to comply with to keep its users.

If it works out for them, it'll be good for their long-term funding and security, market appeal, etc, but bad for users that care a lot more about fundamental principles.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's potential users there, and ff isn't going to lose any users by rejoining.

[–] freudian_slop@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I just can't imagine anyone is going to change to chrome because ff started posting to x.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because those are the only two bruises in existence...

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Basically, yes.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 6 points 1 month ago

... aside from the soft forks.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 1 month ago

Not really. The soft forks are more like pre-packaged configurations than separate browsers. If ff dies all the forks die.

I've used LibreWolf for years now but I still consider myself to be using firefox.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Brave?

Just kidding 😓

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just lost one now. How many did it gain?

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you switch to a chrome fork?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 month ago

These soft forks are more like pre-packaged configurations than another browser.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sadly plenty of ppl still use Twitter, plenty of companies and celebs still doing their thing there. Why do we have to single out Firefox? It's not a company that as ideals like most people here do. Yeah their new stuff is definitely shady, but it's that for Chromium. I'll still use Firefox, this doesn't bother me at all, cuz honestly who gives a fuck. I get the optics, but we do not live in a perfect world of morals and ideals. I only have limited energy I can dish out and this affects me 0% so I'll put that much into it. People are addicted to being angry all the time...

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

My comment isn't really about them returning to X. It's about them blaming it on some type of sudden change in the internet that's supposedly happening "again", that's forcing them to return. Just be honest and say it's for the reason you mentioned, that they want to reach as many as possible. 👍