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Is there any point? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 18 hours ago by Shurikash@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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There's no organizing potential in the USA at all. Everyone only thinks social democrats are the most radical option. Reddit third-worldists call me evil for being born here. I'm scum for being born in this country. I know it at this point, I'm evil for benefitting from imperialism, we're all labor aristocrats, so why bother? I don't even feel the strength to get out of bed anymore. I just want to lay here until I die or until I get evicted and die on the streets. I'm to scared to kill myself, so may as well. I'm just so tired of everything, of seeing the rights of my closest friends being peeled away and there being no viable way to stop it because, again, everyone here only thinks voting is the way out.

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[–] Shurikash@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The rise of social democracy shouldn’t be seen as defeat; the failures of social democrat will drive further radicalizing. It already has.

Is it? Because I'm seeing the opposite. People were gungho for Platner until credible allegations of him raping an American came out. He could have raped Iraqis or Afghans, but because it was an American this time, now it's an issue. We only care about ourselves.

[–] TacticalSanta@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I'm in the US as well. Even if its tiny, the small push-backs you make towards platner, even if the average american lib never understands what it means to be anti-imperialist, chips away at the hegemony of ideology bit by bit. You already have moronic reddit libs who aren't nearly as sinophobic as they once were just 5 years ago. People sucked off Elon musk not long ago too. Even if there is an absolute limit to where the American left/liberals can reach, agitating is still better than not, being alive doing as much as you can (don't get tripped up on the idea that since you are in the imperial core its all or nothing) still chips away at the hegemony of political thought. Remember you probably landed in this space because of things you read that sounded ridiculous at the time now resonate with you. Keep doing what you know is true.

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 16 hours ago

It's unfortunate that so many people fell for Platner. It's unfortunate that people thought Platner was acceptable or were willing to put their faith behind him despite suspicions. But it's important not to get hung up on what has happened. The people who stood by him should be confronted, and if they have integrity they will admit their failure and learn from it. And that's thing: many already have. Leftists were calling out Platner from the beginning and we were proven right. Even our enemies can't ignore that and that alone gets people to listen. Many people fell for Fetterman too, and many of those that did didn't make the same mistake with Platner. Many people fell for AOC, and many of them aren't falling for Abughazaleh. Many people fell for Bernie, and many of those aren't falling for Mamdani. I am one of them.

The struggle is constant. We didn't suddenly win every heart and mind right away; we don't immediately destroy ignorance or hate or apathy the minute our theory meets contact with the enemy. We have to work for it. Many of us are. A tsunami doesn't just emerge out of nowhere - it starts with a single wave. It takes time and effort to make a revolution and we're well on our way there even if it doesn't seem like it. We are a lot closer than it may seem. Socialism and communism have never been more popular in America than right now. Things are changing.