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[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 days ago (8 children)

As someone with full auditory and visual Aphantasia. This is extremely fucked up and ableist. (I am honestly only half joking this is very ableist either way)

I can't rotate cows in my head. I can't even hear cows in my head.

The cops still can't stop be tho.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol if they had said that you can count your fingers then we'd have someone in here without arms saying how ableist the tweet was

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

saying

How dare you, some people are mute and can't say! /j

[–] M137@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hard to write without fingers too. Doable but harder, very abelist again!!

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Some people are in a coma. Just don't do anything!

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago

Everyone must cut out their own tongues and chop off their hands and feet, for inclusivity!

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

I'm able to do it if I'm half asleep. Problem is i get so excited at my ability to create anything I want in amazing detail that I wake back up

[–] getFrog@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I can't even hear cows in my head.

I'm curious about that part. Does that mean you also don't get that weird thing where you hear like, people chattering/ music/ something falling down just before you fall asleep? Or are dreams/half-asleep hallucinations not affected by aphantasia?

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

you hear like, people chattering/ music/ something falling down just before you fall asleep?

What the hell are you on about??

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Probably Hypnogogic hallucination, which is a normal and common transitional phase between wakefulness and sleep characterized by vivid hallucinations incorporating any or all senses.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I didn't even know that was a thing. That's really cool. I've never experienced that

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I have this too. Music, people, simulated falling, stuff like that right before I fall asleep. I always thought this was common?

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Nope. I don't think that's common at all. Maybe the occasional monkey reflex where my body thinks I'm gonna fall off a tree and yanks me awake, but that's it.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yea if you’re possessed by a demon maybe /jk

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Never had this. I eather fall asleep and wake up later. Or I’m getting half-awake dreams, where I’m not I’m still a bit in control at first, but then lose control. (I know I’m dreaming, I just can’t steer it

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Never experienced it and never heard anyone else mention it before.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I would like to know more

[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Auditory hallucinations aren't as common as you seem to think haha. I have them too sometimes.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

Or is it that auditory hallucinations are strongly associated (not clinically, just the way they are always talked about) with bad mental health problems like schizophrenia, which makes them taboo, so people choose not to talk about them, even to doctors?

I get auditory, gustatory, and olfactory hallucinations all the time, due to chronic headache and migraines. Wish I got visual ones too, just for the variety, but alas. I hate peanut butter so so much (my most common hallucination is the smell or taste of peanut butter). My auditory hallucinations aren’t usually voices talking, though, they tend to be cats meowing or chickens yelling, because that’s what I hear most frequently in my daily life, so that’s what I’m trained to listen for.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Apparently dreams aren't necessarily affected by aphantasia.

I feel like when I do have dreams they are extremely vivid and real because I am seeing my thoughts which isn't normal.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, what? Is that something people experience?

[–] getFrog@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

.. I think so? Never questioned it honestly, guess I'll have to do some research now haha

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like you will need to rotate a real cow while in international waters.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 3 points 2 days ago

Well planning all this and executing it you won't have time to be bored.

[–] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Is this ableist? Doesn't seem prejudicial at all. /g

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It means genuine, as in I'm asking a genuine question.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

No, it isn’t.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

100% of theoretical physicists would agree that cows are spheres. You could do mental math in which you calculate changes to the cardinality of the distributed mass.

It should look something like this: 0⁰

Fuck, it's the police!

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I can hear cows in my head, but seriously it's not that great. All they say all day long is, "kill them. Kill them all."

It's kind of monotonous.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How/when did you discover this?

[–] user_name@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not OP but also have aphantasia.

I discovered it when I was…23? My whole life I figured people were saying “picture this…” figuratively and it didn’t even occur to me that it could be otherwise because it was self-evidently impossible to me to “see” something until I learned the word “aphantasia” and that the inability to visualize is not considered the norm/not universal.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah took me 36 years.

It takes actually knowing that people actually see images to know that you cannot do that.

Counting sheep never made true sense to me. How is keeping a tally of "imaginary" sheep jumping over an "imaginary" fence supposed to help me fall asleep?

Makes sense when you realize people do it to stop their brains from randomly sending themselves other imaginary that's going to keep them up. It's like choosing to turn on the TV to something you could fall asleep to is my understanding.

[–] user_name@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, with that one in particular I thhough everybody was just beating a dead horse with the same joke on “counting sleep.”

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

For you and @Sludgeyy@lemmy.world , do you find it affect your memory/recall at all? Especially for reading something, do you need to read aloud? You dont need to answer by the way, I have my suspicions that someone I know might have it but they aren't aware.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Memory or recall of facts. No.

Memory or recall of life experiences. Yes.

From my understanding people can play a "movie" of something like their last birthday party. See who was there, what they were wearing, etc.

Unless I make note of something I'm not going to remember it. I can "subconsciously" make a note of something and recall it but I cannot re

But other than a list of facts I have about my last birthday party, I cannot recall or experience it again.

As for reading. There's no difference between me reading a biology textbook or a romance novel. I read, soak up knowledge, critically think, and remember.

I have to subvocalize to read. I'm curious on why you assumed we had to read outloud. I don't know how other aphants read.

Edit: Wait, subvocalize is different than inner speech is what I just read. I have to have my inner voice speak the word.

[–] user_name@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would say I generally have an excellent memory with better recall for what is read vs what is said. Not that helps you, but I’m a merely anecdotal case.

Maybe more than recall ask them when they read fiction if they pictures the characters orbjust kind of glaze over during prolong descriptive sections. Do they complain about movie casting? I never picture characters so even if I think a performance is bad, I’m never mad that the actor doesn’t look like how I imagined them.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'll never forget trying to read Redwall as a child and trying to remember what character was what animal. I had to write down a cheat sheet.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have full visual in auditorial aphantasia. No visualization, no inner monologue and no ability to recall. Sounds in my head.

All of my thoughts are basically conceptual connections between ideas. Sort of like everything is a gut feeling? Like if I know something I just know it. I really don't have a better way to explain this.

It makes it incredibly easy to just do things that I know how to do. Nothing gets in the way and that's incredibly reliable recall.

The moment I have to explain to anyone else I am completely at a loss. I very rarely can give any reference directions or any meaningful help short of just saying do the thing.

Like you want me to do a 35--step process exactly repeatedly without any error. I can do that. Not a problem.

You need me to walk someone through a three-step process and one of those steps involves something they do automatically like beat their heart. Yeah no I'm not even getting past the first step. Good luck.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How do you read?

I have aphantasia and I have to subvocalize each word that I want to read.

Edit: Wait, subvocalize is different than inner speech is what I just read. I have to have my inner voice speak the word.