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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If that was the case we would have kept the Obama deal

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah but that was a brown person’s deal and we can’t have that.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the reason he canceled that deal was so that he had an excuse to manufacture pretense later.

I don't think he has that much foresight, but maybe the people pulling his strings do...

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Netanyahu might.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Multiple problems with that deal as well, sadly enough

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ya because that's how deals work... The fact that one took years and thousands of experts from all over the world to broker is testimony to how dumb this notion that Iran doesn't have the right get something back in negotiations is laughable. Also inserting that they don't have the right to self determination via self defense is also insulting to everyone involved.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It's insulting not to want a bunch of murdering religious nutjobs to have nukes?

Maybe they should free their people before I'll entertain the thought that they have 'the right' to such horrible weapons

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So, who should have nukes? Just America and their allies? Every country has seen that as soon as they lose nuclear capability they crumble from imperialism, so why would they give up their weapons?

Ideally Iran or NK or Russia (or America) wouldn't have nuclear weapons, but that's not reality.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Every increase makes it worse, especially when it's murderous religious dictatorships

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Every increase? We are a murderous religious dictatorship. Once again other dictatorships have nukes. Other nations have nukes. Only one has ever used them to kill. We are not the good guys here.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Again, Israel fits that description better.

Stop being racist.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Vatican city can fit that description better for what I care.

Why would that make you want Iran to have nuclear weapons?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think a regional nuclear counterweight to the nuclear armed child torturing and murdering apartheid state that is currently actively involved in a genocide and multiple military conquests for lebensraum would be a very good thing.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Do you think them having nukes is going to solve the conflict between Israel and Hamas and Hezbollah? How?

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also wanted to add the Obama deal prevented them from getting nukes. You know how I know that? I read the fucking reports from the international inspectors. Iran passed every search and were complying with the deal. Trump threw it out and started bombing again. Not Iran. Where are you getting your news?! Seriously. You are either willfully ignorant or a troll.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What would happen to the enrichment limitations in 2031 under the Obama deal?

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe another deal. Maybe a authentic revolution by the people. Maybe they would have gotten a nuke. Maybe maybe maybe. That doesn't justify killing innocent people today. Grow up.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, one of those is not like the other ;-)

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We're the religious nut jobs dude. (and Isreal) Free their people? Who has more imprisoned citizens? Iran or America? Do you have any idea how Iran's nut jobs can to power? We are making the same fucking mistakes we did 100 years ago. Also, only one nation has used nukes in violence. Acting as if we have the moral high ground here is alarming.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would you want to compare them to the US to justify them getting nuclear weapons

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do you assume they are less virtues than us? Why do you assume they'll use them? Because those with true power. The ones dropping bombs on girl schools while trying to hold the high ground.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you're worried about bombs on girl schools, I suggest you don't look too deep into how the government of Iran runs things

Again, why would you take the US as some standard for deciding these murderers should get access to nukes?

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

8 know how the government of Iran runs and thinks. That's why I've come to my opinion. As an American I'm concerned about our murderous tendencies and actions. We have a literal pedophile as a president and you are concerned about the morality of Iran. And once again their leaders aren't threatening to wipe out whole civilization and have the ability to do so. And it's not like the Arabs in the region have a legitimate reason to hate the west or anything. Grow up.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah I'm starting to feel this is more about the US than it is about anything else for you

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Stop justifying and excusing terrorism against children.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you taking about Israel?

Because the Ayatollah had a fatwa against nukes, which is the sole reason it didn't have one.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Is it ok for them to have nukes because the ayatollah said no on tv?

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Circling back after Trump just sent billions to Iran with no nuclear guarantees. Iran has control over the straight. Israel's polling all time lows in the US. Iran is literally stronger today, than when you were typing that nonsense. I bet that Obama deal looks pretty good right about now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Lol

Are the billions in the room with us right now?