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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would kill to live in a country like China that optimizes its economy for use value over exchange value.

[–] Tiral@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Honey, I used to live there, and I hate to burst your bubble, but there's a huge HUGE difference between what China says and does.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've heard from many other Chinese people who say the opposite, so I'm gonna go ahead and press X to doubt.

Edit: I also don't really care what someone with enough resources to emigrate has to say. I'm more concerned with ordinary workers, who have a 90%+ approval rating of the CCP.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

What do the rural poor in China think of their new billionaire class and their ever increasing wealth gap?

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They probably hate it, but are glad that they have the CCP to prevent them from gaining political power as well as economic power.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The CCP are the wealthy people in control. Those are some good mental gymnastics.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Anything's possible when you make shit up

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You can ask the 800 million people uplifted from such rural poverty over the span of 40 years

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That wasn't the question. Please try to keep up.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Go ahead and ask them. Or is Harvard also SeeSeePee?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Still not even close to answering the question. I do appreciate your point of view.

[–] Saffire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with everything you posted except I have to also press X to doubt on your claim of 90%+ approval ratings amongst ordinary workers. You can't get 90 percent of people to agree on anything else in the world, except the CCP? It just doesn't compute as a real number for me I guess. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Here’s an article from the Harvard Gazette talking about the surveys. The approval rating was 95.5% and notably, Harvard did not dispute the accuracy of the findings or have issue with the methodology of the survey.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

[–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago

As someone currently living there, I don't believe you.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

Patronizing and completely unsubstantiated!

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Also, don’t patronize me. It’s rude.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Tankies call you out for patronizing when literally every single comment ever by tankies on Lemmy are patronizing and calling out people for "being brainwashed capitalistic libs". Yikes.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

“Everyone I disagree with is a tankie.”