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Will libs have a collective realization about Ukraine like they did with Iraq or will they stay stubborn in it forever? (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago by autismdragon@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the "well Russia was the aggressor" thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.

also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.

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[โ€“] autismdragon@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

deliberately misinterpret Molotov-Ribbentrop, etc.

This is a good comparison I think, especially since when the invasion first started and I got into arguing with some libs in a small friend server I was in about it, the admin of the server brought up this very thing to justify the idea that Russia is always evil invasion country. I didnt have the material at the time to object to that idea. So my attempts to do so where met with "well I side with what the historians think". I left the server voluntarily after that but it was treated like a ban for awhile. They let me back and we just dont discuss the Ukraine War at all ever. Politics channel is kinda dead in general lately.

[โ€“] VILenin@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Thank them for their recognition that Kiev is Polish territory.