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[–] oyfrog@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"become" implies it was something else to begin with. it started as a cess pool when it allowed slavery to persist past the declaration of independence.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"We hold these truths to be self evident - that all men are created equal. But when I meet Thomas Jefferson, I'ma compel him to include women in the sequel, work!".

Man that lyric slapped hard and I'm just now realizing that if it were the N-word, it'd slap hard but be horribly historically inaccurate, as Angelica Schuyler kept many slaves. As did Thomas Jefferson.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Now, Hercules Mulligan, on the other hand....also had slaves. Despite being a founding member of the New York Manumission Society, he also had a slave named Cato who would help him to gather intelligence.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Yes in a weird way, I take heart in knowing that America’s politics have been super fucked up for most of its history. I know that sounds odd but most people I know seem to think things have just suddenly turned bad recently. I think maybe they were born during a brief respite is all. And I do think that with the fuller context, the arc of history bends in the right direction, yes, albeit with famous latency.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think they wanted independence?

It was the rich wanting to get more rich from the get go. Everything else was a smoke screen.