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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Both US parties are anti-lib

I am begging liberals to please learn the meaning of words

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Yeah. They think they can be capitalists, conservatives and libs at the same time like wtf

One should either want people to be liberated from capitalist hierarchies or conserve them, there's no both

Remember comrades, don't trust and repeat the capitalist redefining of words. North Americans might have a hard time learning out of the programming.

Using their apologia language just serves them and none sustain critical evaluation.

"Neoliberal" = pure capitalist conservatism. "Economic liberalism/free markets" same bullshit. All trying to maintain the status quo anti-liberal hierarchy.

Edit: sorry for hurting capitalist feelings that are in some of the comments

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago

Liberalism is the ideology that justifies the continued existence of capitalism, and in that ideology there are social factions with tactical disagreements about how best to manage and justify capitalism, this usually manifests as a cultural divide among conservative liberals and social liberals, but both of them are subsumed by the current mass iteration of liberalism we call neoliberalism

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Liberals are capitalists because they believe in the 'freedom' of markets. Liberalism does not refer to freedom from hierarchy, it refers to freedom from feudalism and feudal dues, specifically. The freedom of private property.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is your definition of liberal?

Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism and encompasses all liberal tendencies - conservatives, social liberals, dem socs, libertarians etc. If you're defining it in a unique way you should let us know so we can understand what you mean

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Any common dictionary is totally fine for sharing definitions, it's the way terms are used one needs to stay vigilant about

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

But what are you using the word to mean? I'm asking so i can understand what you're saying

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

"aNy CoMmOn diCtioNary" Then cite one dipshit.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Edit: sorry for hurting capitalist feelings that are in some of the comments

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