Can you please quote where I did that? Because I never made any global claim. I always referred either to "many countries" or "Germany", neither of which explicitly include the USA.

And according to your smug status quo advocacy, those people getting any more pay or being treated with any more dignity is bad

They can get paid more. But they're already dignified and already well paid (in Germany).

If you bent down and talked to someone sleeping in the street (as the rate of homelessness now rises here)

Where is "here"? Some country which didn't manage to implement capitalism successfully? I never claimed that calitalism does work everywhere, I claimed that can work everywhere.

Maybe US capitalism is shit. But it can work well without UBI (as proven by, you guessed it, Germany).

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[–] smollittlefrog 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can you please quote where I [made a claim about the USA]?

Smug status quo liberals like you phrase their bad faith questions like that all the time, but just in case you will surprise me, here.

[lots of quotes]

I'm sorry, I don't see where I explicitly mentioned the USA in those quotes.

Was it "A large part of the world's population"? (Note that it doesn't say "the entire world's population".)

You are obnoxiously ignorant of living situations outside of your own to the point that you prescribe maintaining the status quo to people you don't know that don't live anywhere near you do. You made the extraordinary claims, not me.

okay

Again, your ignorance is showing, paired once again with your arrogance.

sure

It is not working for most other people

Again, I never claimed that capitalism is well implemented everywhere. I only claimed that

it can work well without UBI

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[–] smollittlefrog 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

goalpost moving [...] is exactly what I got from you

I'm not sure whether you believe to be arguing without moving goalposts. Do you want me to tell you about some goalposts you moved? (E.g. asking me to apply my statements regarding Germany to all countries, including the USA.)

all to justify unlivable wages

Oh, the people in Germany (whom I was talking about all along) are living just fine.

the status quo is shit and failing far more people in the world right now than it is benefiting

Perhaps. Good thing I never claimed the status quo to be successful in all countries.