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This is not about me or the others from the flotilla. There are thousands of Palestinians, hundreds of whom are children, who are being held without trial right now, and many of them are most likely being tortured, says Greta Thunberg.

What we have been through is only a small, small part of what Palestinians have experienced. On the walls of our prison cells, we saw bullet holes with bloodstains and messages carved into the walls by Palestinian prisoners who had been there before us.

When I’m about to get off the boat, there are a bunch of police officers waiting for me. They grab me, pull me to the ground, and throw an Israeli flag over me.

Greta Thunberg describes how she is dragged to a paved area fenced in with iron fences. This is a protracted scene that lasts for over six hours, according to Greta, and is confirmed by several participants in the flotilla that Aftonbladet talks to.

It was kind of dystopian. I saw maybe 50 people sitting in a row on their knees with handcuffs and their foreheads against the ground. They dragged me to the opposite side from where the others were sitting, and I had the flag around me the whole time. They hit and kicked me.

They moved me very brutally to a corner that I was turned towards. ‘A special place for a special lady’, they said. And then they had learned ‘Lilla hora’ (Little Wh0re) and ‘Hora Greta’ (Wh0re Greta) in Swedish, which they repeated all the time.

The flag was placed so that it would touch me. When it fluttered and touched me, they shouted ‘Don’t touch the flag’ and kicked me in the side. After a while, my hands were tied with cable ties, very tightly. A bunch of guards lined up to take selfies with me while I was sitting like that.

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[–] rah@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we can start getting over the whole US and THEM thing

Unfortunately the "us and them thing" is an evolved aspect of human society. It's not possible for humans to get past it because it's literally in our DNA.

The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt discusses this in detail.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe? I feel like there's at least been pockets of history where we successfully resist it, so I have hope. Like, where I live right now, seriously hating any reasonably self-contained group is taboo and the exception.

If we really can't overcome it somehow, the rest of history is going to be at least as hellish as the past, and there's nothing we can do about it.

[–] rah@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If we really can't overcome it somehow, the rest of history is going to be at least as hellish as the past, and there's nothing we can do about it.

You understand then.