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[–] CallMeALibItsAllGood@hexbear.net 0 points 6 years ago (1 children)

It's not that I disagree with the conclusions, hell, you gotta take out your enemies and obstacles to make things happen, but as someone who's not quite convinced that authoritarianism is the way to run things, it means I'd probably be offing myself before they send me to the concentration camp/gulag.

[–] keki_ya@hexbear.net 0 points 6 years ago (1 children)

I won't deny that 1) authoritarianism is not a desirable tool to use and 2) authoritarian socialist states more often than not abused authoritarianism on behalf of the ruling elites. Nobody wants the press to be censored, to be interrogated by a counterintelligence agent, or anything like that. But when the alternative to this dreaded authority is a right-wing coup (Allende), leftist purges (Pinochet), and the rolling back of any socialist policies (Nazis decollectivized Soviet farms), then authoritarianism is really the better alternative. It's the paradox of tolerance.

Yes, this often results in abuse, and this is why it's up to us to create structures that let us wield state power while stopping power-hungry dictators from using it for their own needs. I personally don't really believe this is possible, since history seems to tell that as long as these mechanisms exist, they will be abused. But, the alternative to left-wing authoritarianism is right-wing authoritarianism. Pick your poison. I know what I choose.

[–] CallMeALibItsAllGood@hexbear.net 0 points 6 years ago (1 children)
[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 1 points 6 years ago

The nordic model is a failure, the last 30 years the social democrats have been responsible for 50% of austerity cuts and privatization in the Nordic countries.

The nordic model only exists as a middle point between existing socialism and capitalism, when the USSR fell that middle point dissapeared.