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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Does anyone know who or what is Ziz in this context? Google says jewish mythological beast.

edit: found this:

The Zizians were a cult that focused on relatively extreme animal welfare, even by EA standards, and used a Timeless/Updateless decision theory, where being aggressive and escalatory was helpful as long as it helped other world branches/acausally traded with other worlds to solve the animal welfare crisis.

They apparently made a new personality called Maia in Pasek, and this resulted in Pasek's suicide.

They also used violence or the threat of violence a lot to achieve their goal.

This caused many problems for Ziz, and she now is in police custody.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 10 hours ago
[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

that blog in question comes with its own private glossary and is just as dense and long as you can expect. i spent half an hour trying to figure it out and noped when noticed scroll bar position

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 35 minutes ago

tfw when you recognize it's Quality Rationalist Content

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 25 minutes ago

it's workday, i'm too sober for this

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

it's like looking from outside at minor splinter groups within scientology, and the purported voice of reason says that the right way to deal with these transgressors is to return to scientologist orthodoxy. it even includes seasteading

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 6 points 9 hours ago

It's another one of those things that the further you read the worse it gets, isn't it?

[-] istewart@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago

I was reading something David wrote about it at one point, but it seemed like lore too cursed even for the rationalist milieu

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