I think it was resolved, but then Johnson got elected, pardoned the entire Confederate South including Jefferson Davis, and rolled back reconstruction. And the south benefited from electoral success by counting the slave population toward their number of representatives despite disenfranchising them.

I don't have a real end point or pin to this thought but there's solvable electoral process things that could change the outcomes. The upsetting thing right now is disenchantment in the power of procedures to affect outcome which (1) in some sense is just an unfortunate truth but (2) in another sense is a self fulfilling prophecy as we lose touch of how processes can control outcomes.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Let the idiots have their racist homophobic dictatorship if that's what they want.

I'm sure it would never cause any lasting problems, sharing a substantial land border with an actively malicious enemy nation. /s

Besides, allowing them to leave because they wanted to continue actions antithetical to our values would be tacitly condoning them. "You can keep on trafficking humans, we just don't want any part of it" is a pretty cold-blooded response.

No, letting them go was never a valid option. We just needed to actually finish reconstruction. You can thank John Wilkes Booth for eliminating that.

[–] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Man, saying things like this just further the divide without providing meaningful contributions to any of the current conversations.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, how DO you have a conversation with a group that thinks you or your friends aren't people?

[–] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I have to do it all the time. I was born and raised in the south by (relatively) liberal parents. I recognize that some of my neighbors my not be up to the standards of the rest of the country, but (I can't believe I have to say this out loud) we shouldn't ostracize a geographic region of people because of social issues.

Social reform isn't achieved by running up to someone and saying "You're an uninformed idiot from a flyover state and what you believe is incorrect." It's achieved by saying, "I know you don't really mean that" when someone says some weird shit and calling them out in a more neutral environment. Unfortunately you have to convince people to be better. It's too easy to just close yourself off and decline into your own beliefs.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

It's achieved by saying, "I know you don't really mean that" when someone says some weird shit

And what if, as frequently happens, they do in fact mean it?

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Finally a voice of reason in a mob of tribalists.

[–] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dude, that doesn't help either

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I wasn't here to help. I was here to mock - Not you; but others. I'm not going to hold every persons hand and baby them into enlightenment.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The first shot was fired today against the oligarchs. Well, they started it with all the killing of innocent sick people but the first bullet was fired today.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

He got shot for denying poor people their shots.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Is South Korea? It was days ago. Hard to say what the future will hold. The Jan 6th comparison is apt, I think.