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Vid clip - https://xcancel.com/tsarnick/status/1842401670225125539

I made the big mistake of watching that. And now [redacted]. Holy mother of fuck are tech bros evil.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've heard variations of this from techno-salvationists for years. "We'll invent a solution for climate change! That's just how progress works! The world converges towards whatever futuristic vision I personally hold without regard for logic or material conditions!!"

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strategy game tech trees and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tech Trees really just do re-package the whole "Stone age bronze age iron age steam gas atom jet whatever the fuck" mythos, don't they? Like often literally by name.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That and reinforcing ideas about non-European cultures that are harmful. Shit like "Native Americans didn't invent the wheel because they spent all their tax money on war instead of science." Not like the real reason, which is wheels are fucking useless without large pack animals.

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first invented wheels weren’t even for transportation, they were grinding wheels which even further erodes their point.

[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mills and also Pottery wheels, which arguably predate any solid evidence of wheel’d transportation

[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just thought you had a nice play on words with "grinding wheels which erodes their point"

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Lmao, I see now. I wish I could be half as clever on purpose sometimes

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Even if it did somehow invent a magic technology to solve climate change these people would just overshoot the capacity of that technology in order to maximise growth, that is just how capitalism works.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There was a post on the old sub that was basically ”Heh, stupid communists believe in their utopian fairy tales. Climate change? We'll just invent magic tech that'll make the problem go away”.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a combination of techno-optimism and complete political pessimism, as if the tech billionaires are helpless to actually change anything other than software. And I suspect the tech optimism is increasingly just cope at this point. The ruling class is in serious decline if this is the best they can manage.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I agree. You see it when people talk about "the algorithm" too. They talk about it like it's a thing that exists by itself and not an app that whatever company can change, adjust, or turn off at will.