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Vid clip - https://xcancel.com/tsarnick/status/1842401670225125539

I made the big mistake of watching that. And now [redacted]. Holy mother of fuck are tech bros evil.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 9 hours ago

I've heard variations of this from techno-salvationists for years. "We'll invent a solution for climate change! That's just how progress works! The world converges towards whatever futuristic vision I personally hold without regard for logic or material conditions!!"

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's a combination of techno-optimism and complete political pessimism, as if the tech billionaires are helpless to actually change anything other than software. And I suspect the tech optimism is increasingly just cope at this point. The ruling class is in serious decline if this is the best they can manage.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 16 points 7 hours ago

Even if it did somehow invent a magic technology to solve climate change these people would just overshoot the capacity of that technology in order to maximise growth, that is just how capitalism works.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

There was a post on the old sub that was basically ”Heh, stupid communists believe in their utopian fairy tales. Climate change? We'll just invent magic tech that'll make the problem go away”.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 20 points 8 hours ago

Strategy game tech trees and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 19 points 8 hours ago

Tech Trees really just do re-package the whole "Stone age bronze age iron age steam gas atom jet whatever the fuck" mythos, don't they? Like often literally by name.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago

That and reinforcing ideas about non-European cultures that are harmful. Shit like "Native Americans didn't invent the wheel because they spent all their tax money on war instead of science." Not like the real reason, which is wheels are fucking useless without large pack animals.

[-] Tom742@hexbear.net 7 points 4 hours ago

The first invented wheels weren’t even for transportation, they were grinding wheels which even further erodes their point.

[-] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago
[-] Tom742@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Mills and also Pottery wheels, which arguably predate any solid evidence of wheel’d transportation

[-] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

I just thought you had a nice play on words with "grinding wheels which erodes their point"

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Even then, many large pack animals aren't all that. The first 500 years after the collapse of western Rome was dominated by camels and limited road infrastructure.

Water is and remains the most efficient way to transport goods.

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 1 points 5 hours ago

The first 500 years are the collapse of western Rome was dominated by camels and limited road infrastructure.

Where?

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[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago

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