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Can we defederate from hexbear.net?
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Hexbear is really queer friendly and polite. It's also one of the few actual leftist spaces on here after the homogenization of lemmy.world and lemmy.ml. The main goal I've interpreted from Blahaj.zone is to be a queer-first and affirming space on Lemmy, so one has to prove that Hexbear is a large enough systemic threat to Blahaj's members to warrant defederating.
I don't think I'd describe hexbear as polite, they seem to get pretty rowdy, even antagonistic at times. Otherwise I agree though. It would be a shame to cut off one of the largest queer friendly instances out there.
Yeah, Hexbear is old Chapo, they left Reddit for Lemmy years ago. Because honestly, ChapoTrapHouse was a problematic community sometimes.
We do a little belligerence.
It'll mostly blow over once we've familiarized properly with the federated experience, sometimes I'll find myself outside local without realizing. also yeah toning down the emotes on other's instances I fully get, that sounds unfortunately disruptive
Yeah the pig poop emoji is my one gripe about Hexbear
that's reserved for people who've shown themselves to be chuds, if it's even remotely possible to have a discussion we'll opt for that first
That's fine but outside of hexbear people don't know that and it's also just gross and annoying
If people are replying to you with pig poop balls a lot you're probably saying dumb shit
Nobody has replied to me with it I just don't like it and think it's annoying and gross
It may hearten you to know that internally we are having this discussion as well and I think it's likely to get much less frequent. This time next year you'll know if you see that image that a nazi is getting dunked on by your friendly neighborhood hexbear
Iirc the devs are working to make it not be giant for everyone else.
I'm not saying I hate hexbear or anything adjacent. I was a member of Chapo before it left Reddit and just didn't make the jump. The John Brown thing was topic of the week when it was taken down, but what I remember the most from Chapo was the poop ball pig spam. Hilarious? Yes. Annoying? Also yes.
We were able to purge a lot of the dumb stuff out of CTH and made it better. There was a lot of chaser stuff on the old subreddit, I usually avoided comment sections there because itd make me too angry. The new mod team is very good though and obliterates transphobes and chasers on sight
We're polite when met with good faith, next time you see hexbears ask them a question about their beliefs or whatever is going on, a clarification, a tangent, whatever. Just ask a real question (not a bullshit weighted question designed to be a landmine) like "could you tell me more about X? I don't agree, but I haven't heard about that before" and you'll get polite and friendly responses (usually lol)
And yeah we get pretty rowdy and antagonistic at times like when we tell people to fuck off for throwing a fit about pronouns (which we did, then we banned them, then we made pronouns on Hexbear mandatory lol). That's how you protect your community from reactionaries, racists, and bigots
Are pronouns actually mandatory on Hex?
you're allowed to set them to none/use name if you really prefer, but pronouns are always displayed yes
it's part of what has made hexbear the friendliest space to be trans (period imo, but especially online)
Yes.
Like you can link me to something that says that?
Just try to make an account without pronouns on hexbear, you'll see it is impossible.
Yes.
Yes, and we banned everyone who didn't want them mandatory. Because using optional pronouns is just a magnet for "this person is trans, dm them 'you will never be woman, kys'" from Nazis. If everyone uses pronouns display, it is normalized.
Yes, but you can choose any/none/use name if you dont want it listed
My issue isn’t with their takes or politics. My issue is the vibe. Maybe it’s because I’m older, and I want to have maybe an actual conversation with someone without having to deal with comments that consist of a pig pooping.
To be clear, when I said that it feels like t_d, I didn’t mean the political takes. I meant the edge lording and name calling. Granted, it’s mostly in their own community, but if you look at some of the behavior of their users here you’ll see what I’m talking about, and it’s leaked into other communities too.
Hiya! So, we do get pretty intense sometimes, but it comes from a good place and we love having extensive discussions about stuff, answering questions about our beliefs, why we believe them, etc. We'll be happy to talk about it until after the heat death of the universe in fact. We do not tolerate bigotry of any kind and when we encounter it we do not hold back, so yeah, the intensity is warranted and necessary. We're also good at smelling when someone is bullshitting us, because we've had to deal with people trying to fuck with us for 3 years. If you're being earnest and you say as much and ask questions, you'll get good faith interactions. Interesting and educational ones too, I'll wager
As someone else said, how are they queer friendly when they vehemently support anti-LGBTQ+ countries?
They also support Cuba, a nation with the most queer affirming family code in the entire world.
China has slowly been making life easier for queer people in the same fashion as the US (slow, very gradual changes decriminalization for example)
By this logic the EU is explicitly anti-queer because Poland is an EU member state which houses the most regressive policies in the entire world ("lgbt-free zones") Yet Poland is not sanctioned, nor cut off from the EU.
The US has hundreds of anti-trans bills and the supreme court recently struck down legal protections for queer people (this case was also entirely fabricated to game the court system). Florida exists.
Not to mention the solidarity we should show to queer people across the globe. Pinkwashing history is not a solution.
Poland should be ousted from the EU for it's horrid treatment of queer people, and the US is a strange mix since it's mostly up to each state, and some states are horrible fucking cesspits that should not be supported in anyway (looking at you Florida).
If they only supported Cuba that would be okay. But China and Russia, fuck no.
It's not "support" however. It's just a discussion and news outlet for what's happening outside of the direct US sphere of influence with like minded communists. My point being is that you can rarely pick and choose countries because queer liberation is always ongoing and multifaceted.
In any case, this isn't grounds for defederation in my opinion. Simply block the communities as you see them or don't engage.
Wait, how does Poland have the most regressive policies in the entire world when there are countries with the death penalty for LGBT people? Maybe they have the worst policies in Europe, but Hungary, Russia and Türkiye seem equally as regressive, if not more.