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submitted 1 year ago by MrLuemasG@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

I'm just a little bit late to the Baldurs Gate 3 party, but I searched on here and didn't see much follow up discussion about it after the review thread. I'm also trying to submit more to Lemmy so the communities can grow, so I thought I'd bring it back up now that it has been out for a few weeks.

I only just bought Baldurs Gate 3 this week and finally got time to sit down and play it tonight for the first time really and I am so impressed. The character creator allows so much character expression. I made a generic red Tiefling and when I saw there was an option to add vitiligo, I immediately built out a head canon where my character is a Tiefling that is slowly being transformed into a human by a curse from his past. I never would have thought of a character like this, but the character creator just provided some pretty unique designs and options.

Everything just feels so polished. I've played Pathfinder Kingmaker before this and parts of Wasteland 2, but I've never been much of a CRPG fan. I feel like the user interface in this game is a lot easier to follow and read. It's especially nice because I played in co-op with a friend that doesn't play much in the way of RPGs and has only ever played tabletop D&D once and he was able to easily slot in and start figuring out how things work together and where everything in the UI was. It was very entry-level friendly for our experience and it made the entire experience a lot better.

Also it's kind of a weird thing but I'm really impressed with the facial animations so far. I was expecting Bioware or Bethesda style faces where their lips move, but their faces are otherwise lifeless. I've been loving seeing the character seemingly actually move their eyebrows and their jaws when they're speaking.

I'm not super far into the game since I've only had time today to play it, but I'm super excited to play more when I get the chance.

What have your experiences been like? Any fun stories or characters you've made?

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[-] Cabeza2000@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just a little bit late to the Baldurs Gate 3 party,

Late? As a patient gamer I would say you got in early. :)

I played most of the mainstream CRPG, including multiple Larian Studios titles and I have no doubt that I will play BG3 as well... But probably in a year or two after the game gets some polish and, hopefully, a discount.

BTW, thanks for posting and generating content in Lemmy.

[-] BROMETHIUS@startrek.website 23 points 1 year ago

Right? Game is brand spankin’ new lol

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's not even out yet on some platforms.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Remember jts been in development for 6 years and 3 of those were beta testing. This game has been getting played and polished for 3 years.

It is being highly spoken of because of its completeness and non brokenness.

I think the state of games these days had made you expect a tued sandwich on day one until a year or so in.

This isnt that. I assure you. Its fantastic. Couldnt recommend it enough.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

There's also no statute of limitations with Baldur's Gate games. When there are people still getting into the previous games in the series for the first time 20 years after they were released, you have a little more of a grace period before considering yourself "late to the game."

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

BG2 is my favorite game of all time and anything that gets more people to give it a shot is a good thing.

It just so happens that is what inspiring people to give it a shot may be the best game of all time.

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[-] TheOtterITGuy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I'm playing a gnome druid with dark urge, his troubled background is what causes the urges but deep down he just wants to be a good guy. Although, the urges do sometimes win, he tries to shop with every merchant to help the local economies. While necromancy is typically considered evil, he views it more as a "it's stopping living people being hurt in battle."

I only bought it last week and I'm already up to 50 hours, but I feel there's so much I've missed. The amount of content is insane, and speak with animals/speak with dead just seems to increase it even more. I've been talking to every animal I came across and the depth of every character surprises me every time. It's nothing like Bethesda's "go talk to the boss, I'm a lowly grunt" esque chats, even the children have their own entire arc. I may be slightly enamored with it, I'd go so far to say this should be the gold standard of game releases.

[-] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol I missed out on speak with animals with the startled boar near the beginning area and I've regretted it ever since. Makes me want to reload a save and see what it has to say.

Edit: *Makes me, not "Make some".

Love mobile.

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[-] MrLuemasG@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I discovered speak with animals last night and my friends and I were having a riot hearing what the animals had to say. A cow talked shit at me, a rat led me to treasure. Fantastic

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I feel like there's two parts. On the one hand, Larian's engine is fantastic and allows really creative and diverse approaches to their puzzles. There's a number of fights that feel more like puzzles than fights, because they're nearly impossible if you just go in spells blazing, but not nearly as threatening with a little preparation. They've honed that engine through DOS & DOS2, so it's much more mature than you'd get if this were a pure derivative of BG1/2. The first time I lit Shadowheart up with Spirit Guardians and dashed her around a battlefield reaping the canon fodder...I actually giggled with glee.

Then there's the storytelling. My journal is filling up with quests & side quests, but I don't think any of them have been the "Kill 5 orcs," "gather 10 blood moss," or "deliver this McGuffin" variety. The NPCs you meet tend to reappear later and react differently depending on how their previous quest ended. I suppose, technically, that's similar to going back to the same quest-giver, rising in their 'ranks' toward some prize, but it doesn't feel the same. The NPCs, even the side-quest NPCs, feel like they're woven into the overall narrative and it makes for a much more immersive experience.

I can't imagine how much writing, animation, and voice acting had to be done to accommodate all the choices I won't make. Even just the times some NPC voices my gender.

[-] forvirreth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I agree about the quests feeling fairly good, but my hod is the jour Al itself atrocious. No way to remove/hide quests from the map. Many quests sort of remain in this "not done" quest state because completing it will have undesirable outcomes and it feels weird that I have to keep it there still

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I respect this take but also can you translate that first sentence

[-] Thehalfjew@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think it's, "but my god is the journal itself atrocious"

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[-] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago

I'm 60 hours in and I just discovered that there's an act 2...

My only complaint is that you can't rename your backpacks

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just use the unique named backpacks I find. Like I have a "backpack," "Bewildered Adventurer's Backpack," "Old backpack," "Rotting backpack," etc.

I keep my potions in the bewildered bag, scrolls in the old bag, and throwables in the rotting bag. All the quest items (except the damn artifact) into the backpack I started with, along with my alchemy and supply pouches, gold and keyring.

[-] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

That's a excellent idea. I'm going to start doing it that way until someone makes a backpack naming mod

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[-] Keifa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I would LOVE to rename backpacks/chests. I've gone way too deep collecting storage containers lol

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have a barbarian that throws smokepowder barrels at people

This game is fucking amazing

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I'm over 60 hours in and afraid to ask. Backpacks?

[-] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Backpacks. Yep.

I had to give up by hour 50 trying to better organize things

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[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Loving the game as well but the character creation is kinda limited. Everyone turns out sounding like a Shakespeare actor, and looking too prim and proper.

I understand why that is, a game as large as this would be impossible to make with the range of voice variety I'm hoping for. Unrealistic on my part.

That said, the game is incredible, and as long as you accept what the character creator gives you, the models and faces look great

[-] verysoft@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, was expecting a lot more from character creation, but it's just the same as DOS2. I mean most of the game is just DOS2, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing, DOS2 was awesome. Just do yourself a favour and get this mod, it makes the game much more playable.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

It's great, the voice acting seems really good right across the board too. Overall it makes for quite an engaging world and story at least for me. I've run into a fair few bugs and annoyances but fortunately nothing too major, been having a blast so far! Hopefully the issues that are there get patched soon.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 year ago

If you don't want to wait for patches and/or just want to customize your experience, there's already a bustling mod scene over on the Nexus, getting bigger and better pretty much every day!

[-] Case@unilem.org 5 points 1 year ago

I'd just like to add that installing mods via vortex (Nexus mod manager, usually very solid) gave me a lot of issues and I had to use a mod manager built for BG3 to mod easily.

I'm sure I just wasn't paying attention and just decided to look for an easier method.

If anyone is interested, just reply here and I'll find the info on the mod manager when I get home.

Tl;Dr - Check individual mod install notes, BG3 doesn't mod quite as easily as say Skyrim.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for pointing this out. I use Baldurs Gate 3 Mod Manager too and make sure to follow the advice of the second pinned comment here every time I save my new load order. I don't know if it's necessary to use the mod fixer mod itself when you do that, but I have it installed just in case and every mod that isn't pre-release or broken works for me with no further issues!

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[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I've been lost in the underdark for hours

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago

It's really, really great. I'm hoping they use the platform for more content, it's fucking incredible.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

It would be cool if they added more 5e character creation content (particularly subclasses and feats), as well as potentially other adventures down the road

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[-] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if I'm enjoying it yet. I'm only 4 hours in and it feels like Divinity Original Sin 3 and not a Baldur's Gate game. Maybe that's fine, but it's not what I was expecting.
The combat seems more complicated and I'm having to rest after even basic encounters, but I guess that's the way BG1 was too.
Still messing with the graphics settings to get it to look decent and run ~60FPS on my creaky old Vega 56.

[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

The combat becomes much better when you gain some levels. Early you only have few spell slots and cool bonus actions. I can assure you it gets better the longer you keep going, especially if you loot all the usable consumables (scrolls, arrows, etc)

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[-] BurnedOliveTree@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It’s the first game I bought for full price since… since I had Steam at least, probably even further than that. And I’m definitely not regretting that, it’s awesome

[-] davetansley@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'm looking forward to it! I bought it on Steamdeck, but had to refund because I couldn't get it to run decently... felt I would be doing it a disservice with all the compromises. So I'm not waiting for the PS5 release...

[-] JowlesMcGee@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I was considering getting it for my steam deck. If you don't mind me asking, how bad was the performance?

[-] davetansley@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Well, my problem is partly that I play docked, so every issue is magnified up to 50 inches... so take what I say with a pinch of salt.

I managed to get it to run at a fairly stable 30fps, but the settings were so low that everything looked pretty muddy and basic. You can turn off the FSR to get it to look less blurry at 800p, but it still looked pretty bad. Generally, everything just looked a bit unstable, you know? Hair was pixelated, lines were jaggy everything felt jumpy and gritty. I'm sure it would look better on the SD screen itself.

I also read that Act 3 onwards takes a further hit to performance... so at that point I decided to cut my losses. Shame... it's the first game where I've genuinely felt the SD isn't up to it.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I noticed the same as I primarily play docked too. But I got sucked into the game and just have been dealing with it. I figured on subsequent playthroughs maybe I'll play it on my desktop PC.

[-] davetansley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Phew... I was starting to think I was the only docked Steamdeck gamer in the whole universe!

[-] Lutz69@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've played about 70% of my 20ish hours so far on Steam deck, and honestly, it's awesome. Controls work out of the box since release. I don't really care all that much about graphics, and they're passable on the deck. I can imagine it's probably really bad if you dock it and play on the big screen, but handheld it's perfectly fine and very convenient. Drains battery like a mf, though.

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[-] enjoytemple@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely great game! And being a Larian's title means the game will only get better and better with updates and good mod support! Like you said they really did a good job to make the game easy to follow. As an one who never played any tabletop RPGs, I couldn't understand how the combat worked in the first Pathfinder game (like at all) so I eventually dropped it, but this is not the case for BG3.

All the classes are surprisingly fun too. Like I did think I would enjoy Berserkers but they are even more funnier than I have ever imagined - when there's any problem, just roar them out, or grab it up to hit another problem and make them both prone. And I already have planned 4 or 5 classes to try in the future. Now if only they can make save files smaller in size (got 1.4G of them now)...

[-] bzah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

I don't play that much any more sadly, only one evening per week with the buddies but BG3 looks very appealing. Do you think it can be enjoyed casually ?

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. I'm playing on the easy/story mode and the battles still take forever. Especially early on when you're learning the game you can expect ordinary fights to last 10-15 minutes on average, big fights can last much longer and end with your death which makes them feel pointless. Movement is also very slow, it takes a long time to get anywhere. There's also a ton of inventory management you'll need to do + the learning curve if you don't know D&D already.

It's a very good game but there's nothing casual about it. People will recommend the game to you anyway but I don't think it's a good fit for casual players. Also, the game gets buggier and buggier the farther you get from Act 1. I would at least wait for it the last two acts to get fixed, act 3 is actually really bad right now.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

The fucking inventory management is the worst. It's so slow and clunky. What's annoying is that there are bags and pouches you can put stuff into to better organize but the things like lotions and throwables don't show up on your hot bar. They have a dedicated bag for alchemical ingredients and one for camp supplies, but I wish they had gone further and made one for books, throwables, potions, special arrows, etc.

Also there's no easy way to look at camp items and all your characters. Especially ones not in your party. So moving stuff around or trying to optimize equipment is super annoying and time consuming. Especially if you have one set of armor you like to use but want to bring on two different characters depending who is in your party.

One thing I like is that characters automatically teleport keys to each other as needed. The game even calls it magic pockets when it happens. You can move items between characters freely in combat. I just wish there was a way to have a pooled inventory then that way we could have all characters have access to scrolls and stuff without having to move them.

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[-] megasin1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It can be enjoyed casually solo or with close family like a girlfriend or teenage kids. But with friends you need to schedule long sessions because it's a huge game. It has 3 difficulties: explorer, balanced and tactician. So a solo explorer play through could be done casually in 30 minute chunks. You might have to pause mid combat during longer fights but it has quick save so you can finish it later.

[-] hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It can be enjoyed casually solo or with close family like a girlfriend or teenage kids.

One thing to be aware of is that it's not designed for drop-in multiplayer. I offered to be player 2 for my girlfriend's playthrough and now any time she wants to play by herself my character is stuck in her party, not following her around and taking up a slot that can't be allocated to one of the origin characters.

(UPDATE: This last bit may have been a transient bug; I was able to get the character to follow again after some troubleshooting. Still can't swap the character for an NPC though.)

So unless you know your other multiplayer buddies can always play with you, think twice about MP or you may be at a disadvantage.

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[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I've just had a baby and can only manage to play half an hour here and there randomly. It's awesome.

If you loved baldurs gate as much as I used to, definately worth it.

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[-] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ya it's a lot of fun, definitely digging it

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