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Giuliani doesn’t want to sue Trump for $2m. His creditors might make him do it anyway (www.independent.co.uk)

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 83 points 6 months ago

Quick history lesson.

After he won the election, but before being sworn in, Rudy was on scene when a car hit a child.

Rudy abused the ambulance crew, who wanted to take the victim to the nearest hospital, against the mother's wishes.

Rudy won, and then tried to play off that he'd "rescued" the kid, when in fact he'd put the kid's health at risk.

Rudy is, was, and will always be a pig.

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/16/nyregion/giuliani-challenges-ems-at-accident.html

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Rudy abused the ambulance crew,

I wish that I could be confident that was an autocorrect from "sued"...

But you never know with Rudy

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 months ago

No it was really verbal abuse

[Giuliani] said he challenged the lieutenant, James Ayuso, for resisting the woman's "perfectly reasonable request" and leaving the boy "shivering on the ground" while arguing for 10 minutes before acquiesing.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Nah we all know

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

If you're a subscriber could you share a gift link?

[-] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Here you go.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you very much.

[-] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

The finacial courts do ocassionally do really funny things. Like forcing Musk to buy Twitter and now making Rudy sue Trump

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

It was funny seeing him Find Out after Fucking Around with them, but it's considerably less funny now that it's Truth Social 2.0

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah it was looking like Twitter was going to collapse for a few months... But now it's obviously not going to.

Having the most money in the world helps with even the worst businesses, unfortunately.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

It kills me because so many of my peers devote so much time, love, and energy into community-based businesses that struggle to stay afloat. Meanwhile these fuckers stay enriched while running absolutely despicable businesses, only because they have so much seed money to start with.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago

They should simply have had their parents run an emerald mine in an apartheid country.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

I keep telling my brother this but he won't listen

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

And then those chucklefucks claim the rest of us are beholden to a meritocracy when they just called on mommy and daddy to give them welfare.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Money talks. Everything else can fuck off"

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

"it's just business" they say

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago

Fuck Around and Find Out

Please please please can we leave this phrase back in Reddit

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

I bet the reason Gulliani doesn't want to sue Trump isn't loyalty. It's because he knows, deep down, that any attack on Trump is going to be seen by the MAGA hats as a threat. Nuance isn't their specialty.

Gulliani knows he's going to get death threats if his creditors sue Trump.

[-] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Even funnier

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Nah. I don’t want anyone to get death threats.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Something something greater good

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago

The greater good

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

"The greater good? I am your WIFE. I'm the greatest "good" that you are ever gonna get!"

Honey, The Incredibles

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah I don't want it to be threats either.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Better him than anyone else.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

I fucking hate how these assholes can run around with millions in debt, yet some average Joe will be in prison because they can't pay a 500$ fine...

[-] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wish it weren't that way. I have family in my life that went to jail over bills (related to a video rental) in Indiana, this century. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debtors%27_prison#:~:text=While%20the%20United%20States%20no,fee%20imposed%20in%20criminal%20judgments.

[-] drmeanfeel@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

As intended, the revolving door of minor fines is a huge aggregate revenue stream

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 months ago

Lmao that is honestly kinda fuckin’ hilarious. Doesn’t that effectively mean that he’s forced to pay the legal bills of his creditors, thus only increasing his debt?

Delicious.

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Truly hilarious. 😂

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

There's no blood in the Trump turnip. If Giuliani is smart he'll wait until the RNC commits to covering all Trump's legal bills and debts. So, like, a week or so?

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

They're broke funding his whatever it is he does anyway.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Ofcourse, you cannot claim you have no money and then have a lot of outstanding debts you can cash.

Also, they gotta pay was the credo right?

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

What a way to have your cake and eat it too.

Id love to go, "Ah I'm so sorry daddy Trump. I had to sue you. I love you, you delicious orange man, but lawyer mommy says I gotta sue sowwie owwwie dawwie baldjebdorheit..."

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 12 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Now, Mr Guiliani’s creditors are exploring multiple avenues to obtain what they are owed, including forcing him to possibly sue the Trump campaign, and/or the Republican National Committee, according to the source close to the matter.

Mr Giuliani filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in December 2023 after a colossal defamation verdict that ordered the man formerly known as “America’s Mayor” to pay more than $148m to a pair of election workers he falsely accused of manipulating votes in Georgia.

He also faces lawsuits and collections from more than a dozen other parties, including the IRS and city agencies, Dominion Voting Systems, Hunter Biden, and Noelle Dunphy, a former employee who accused him of sexual assault.

Shortly before his bankruptcy hearing last month, Mr Giuliani listed his assets and debts in a court filing and included a “possible claim for unpaid legal fees against Donald J Trump” for an undetermined amount.

If they believe the claims are “viable” – like the one listed regarding Mr Trump – the committee essentially can “step into the shoes” of the debtor, and can file a lawsuit, try to negotiate a settlement, or pressure him to sue, Ms Hines told The Independent.

Without legal action, creditors are scrambling to get back what they are owed, with Mr Giuliani reporting assets worth more than $10m — including two properties each valued in the millions, a Mercedes-Benz, and a signed Joe diMaggio shirt — that he could try to sell.

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[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

How can they force him to sue Trump or anybody else? Genuinely curious.

And he obviously doesn't want to do so because he damn well knows that the skeletons that would be coming out of the closet would be exponentially worse for him than the ones we already know about.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 13 points 6 months ago

If in bankruptcy he can lose control over his financial matters. If the ones in charge of his estate (bankruptcy liquidators) think there is value in filing a suit, then they will as they are just trying to get all the funds they can to pay creditors.

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

But he wouldn't be suing them per se, the liquidators would. Correct?

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 6 months ago

His estate, and in the court case his dealings would be fair game. This aspect of bankruptcy is not common but is a thing that can happen.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago

If he doesn't comply with the bankruptcy court, they won't let him declare bankruptcy.

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