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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

No, he did not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism

In the first chapter of Capital: A Critique of Political Economy (1867), commodity fetishism is used to explain how the social organization of labour manifests in the buying and selling of commodities (goods and services). In the marketplace, social relations among peopleβ€”who makes what, who works for whom, the production-time for a commodity, etc.β€”are represented as social relations among objects.[3]

In the process of commercial exchange, commodities appear in a depersonalized form, obscuring the social relations inherent to their production.[4] Marx explained the sociology of commodity fetishism:

As against this, the commodity-form, and the value-relation of the products of labour, within which it appears, have absolutely no connection with the physical nature of the commodity and the material relations arising out of this. It is nothing but the definite social relation, between men, themselves, which assumes here, for them, the fantastic form of a relation between things. In order, therefore, to find an analogy, we must take flight into the misty realm of religion. There the products of the human brain appear as autonomous figures endowed with a life of their own, which enter into relations, both with each other and with the human race. So it is in the world of commodities with the products of men's hands. I call this the fetishism which attaches itself to the products of labour as soon as they are produced as commodities, and is, therefore, inseparable from the production of commodities.[5]

According to Marx, the operation of commodity fetishism requires the owners of capital to actively ignore or maintain an indifference to the relational whole that produces a commodity.[6]

tl:dr, Marx described that capitalism produces a semi-religious veneration for and obsession with products themselves, as a byproduct of alienating the worker from the work, from themselves, from their humanity, and from others.

An extremely rough, modern, internet slang way to say it might be 'you being a shopping addict is basically you just being kinky for capitalism, which is something captialism itself produces in people'.

Ya'll need to read some theory and up your meme game.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 points 55 minutes ago

I do like going shopping but that's because then I get stuff, and having new stuff is cool. But you don't need a capitalist hierarchy to make any of this happen

[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I won't upvote this, but it did make me laugh

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm a Marxist girl

In a Marxist world

[–] Sly2@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I heard that Marx was, ironically, rather financially irresponsible and often had money troubles. Once he had money he spent it all on parties and nice food and such.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 1 points 4 hours ago

Gauche caviar of him ngl

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

This is blatant consumerist propaganda!

Also shopping not fun. I want to walk into a store and pick up Balsamic Glaze and leave. I don't want to have to assess the minute differences in weight, cost, and quality of 30 different products that are all in the same race to win over my dollar and maximize their profits.

That's one reason why refill store is good.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A couple of years ago they started putting the per kg price under the item price in Germany. At first I thought that's for idiots who cannot calculate. Now I absolutely love this. I hardly even check the item price anymore, my eyes go straight to per kg. Fuck my idiotic entitled smartass past self, per kg prices are the best thing that ever happened to capitalist supermarkets

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

In the US we have a mix of:

  • Price per individual unit
  • Price per entire unit
  • Price per weight
  • Price per volume

And different products from the same category will choose different ones so you have to do the math anyway.

E.g. Sometimes our berries will be sold in split tubs so you'll get the price for the whole thing and then on the comparison tag a price for half the tub. That will be sitting next to a different brand of the same berry in a package 2oz smaller and it's comparison text will have the price per Oz, sitting next to that is an entire other brand and it will list the price of the whole unit and in comparison will list the same price again labeled explicitly as "per unit".

Like every thing the US manages to shit out it's an utterly terrible system.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Well then do i have an opportunity to preach the good word of syndicalism to you.

[–] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

Sidebar, actually accounting for human behavior isn't as simple as telling people to not be cruel to one another.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Have you ever been to a free shop?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

Exactly! All the stuff is yours AND you didn't spend a dime!

[–] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

Only at OPs mom's house..

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 21 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Tbh I don't get "shopping"/"retail therapy." Obviously I have wants for luxuries, but usually I pine after these for months and hold off on the decision until I feel I have saved enough and worked hard enough to justify it. Spontaneously going out to buy luxury items is a much rarer impulse for me.

Yeah, Same here honestly

[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I really like shopping for clothes but I don't buy new I always go thrifting. There is something so satisfy with finding a nice unique dress that fits right for $10.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago

Ah but have you tried just never thinking through the consequences of your actions? It seems like about 75% of people never do.

[–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago

Iddon't buy shit I need, but I can get behind the feeling. When I walk through the hardware store I would like to buy a grinder, a saw, a drill and many more things. Not that I need any of them, because most is already in lower quality at home, but I really would have fun buying shit.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 11 points 12 hours ago

You can still shop under communism

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

πŸ’–πŸ§Έ come on Marxi, let’s go party πŸŽ‰πŸ’–

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If we have a communist revolution, then we can all go shopping at the free store!

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Artists not having to worry about money means they’ll all disappear though 😭 /s

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

My brother in the Invisible Pink Unicorn, you can still shop in communism. And whatever you need is free.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No you see capitalism is commerce, and both have always existed. Somehow everyone knows this true fact, which is super normal.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Obviously. Ancient history shows humans never had any trinkets, toys, or keepsakes until the Industrial Revolution /s

[–] SoyaSuki@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I get it now πŸ₯²

  • Boris Yeltzin in an American πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ¦…Grocery Store:
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That’s more of a climate critique between Russia and the US.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Right.

Because communism doesn't exist, it's completely free of problems.

(not /s, by the way.)

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

A communist US would still grow oranges and peaches.

A capitalist Siberia still wouldn't.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

A communist US would still grow oranges and peaches.

logically, yes. It would also export sturgeon caviar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 1 points 4 hours ago

Lack of natural resources is not of a problem in Russia

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

To be fair, Usagi did go on to cure death and create a neo-socialist workers paradise while bloodlessly uniting all the people of earth...

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

All the people of earth at that point were the few people in Japan that she happened to save from a global freeze. So, bloodlessly is probably not the right term for that.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Eeh, Great Freeze was an ecological disaster caused by sailor chaos. When Usagi is interred on the Silver Throne after revealing herself as Neo-Queen serenity, she restores the population to their rightful place on earth, then loses her daughter to time manipulation hijinks, which prompts her to ally with Sailor Mars and embark on her great crusade to unite the Sailors and find her lost child, accompanied by her loyal yet enigmatically powerful servant Mamodor...

or, wait hang on...

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 14 hours ago

More evidence yet that Capitalism wins over Marxist-Leninism the end.

[–] nooch@lemmy.vg 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think he probably considered this - part of commodity fetishism?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Nah that's when you get off on 5 tons of iron ore that you only symbolically own

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 16 hours ago

compelling argument.

[–] Una@europe.pub 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but under communism you have a leader who puts a collar on you and calls you a good puppy and you waf at them :3

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to wear a collar and be called a good boy. That's about as far as the fantasy goes. I don't really like the puppy play stuff. Certainly things about it I like but not as a whole. Also if I may inquire, what is uniquely communist about that?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Under capitalism, nobody calls you 'cumrad'.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

One side of me shuns consumerism.
Other wants to participate in the stereotpical feminine tradition, out of spite.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

I adore thrift shopping but it can become an easy way to lift your conscience after overconsumption. I have a friend who tries to buy nothing new and good for her and the environment, but she constantly treats herself to thrift shopping sprees, realizes that she doesn't need most of it shortly after, and declutters boxes of stuff each week and puts them in "for free" giveaway cupboards in the city where, let's be honest here, 80% of the stuff ends up getting trashed. Tldr: thrift whenever you can but it is no excuse to go berserk.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Is shopping for groceries fun?

[–] url@feddit.fr -2 points 16 hours ago

Didnt get it