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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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A troubling incident unfolded in Redmond, Washington, where Native American actress Elaine Miles was detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents while she was simply walking to a bus stop to go shopping. According to the Seattle Times, the agents claimed she was carrying false identification — even though the document she presented was her tribal ID.

Miles, an Indigenous performer known for her roles in Northern Exposure, Smoke Signals, Wyvern and The Last of Us, handed over her tribal identification card issued by the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation in Oregon. As the newspaper notes, federal agencies recognize tribal IDs as valid identification, and Miles has long used hers to travel in and out of Canada and Mexico without any difficulty.

The agents — wearing tactical vests and masks and driving two black SUVs with no front plates — refused to accept the ID, insisting it was “fake” and that “anyone can make that.”

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 27 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I have issues with my Tribal ID and license plate all the time, and I live in a place with a bunch of Native Americans. It’s like it goes beyond just not knowing they exist, seeing them makes people angry for some reason.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago

ICE agents really, really don't like being reminded that they're all descendants of illegal immigrants.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

The Walgreens where I used to work turned a woman away and accept as an ID. I told her that was illegal because it is a federal ID. She didn't care

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe it's having to face the guilt of what my folks did to y'all. Or just stupidity.

Either way, that sucks dude. I'm sorry ya gotta deal with that shit.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You're more optimistic to me to believe its guilt and not anger that the indigenous don't dissolve their tribes and bow down and thank America for "civilizing" them.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

True, sadly very true.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely insane we got a tribal member on Lemmy

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I think Native Americans make up like 1% of the U.S population

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

1% means 1 out of 100 people. Assuming your stat is true then for every 100 Americans on Lemmy you should expect 1 of them to be Native.

There are a lot more than 100 Americans on the site. It would be absolutely insane if there weren't any Natives here.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 minutes ago

Good point, probably because I'm using anecdotal evidence of not knowing any native american friends at school but statistically speaking, the odds of meeting a Native American Lemming isn't too bad.

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 56 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure all their badges are fake.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago
[–] ElJefe@lemmy.ca 14 points 23 hours ago

I’m so sick of these fucks. I’ll never get tired of saying 🖕FUCK ICE🖕