dunno who the fuck the osse is, but hilarious ladder pull, top job.
how is aoc even a politician, what terrible political instincts.
Not a good idea to run against the leader who is incredibly unpopular?? WTFFF
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At a time where the base, and grassroots momentum, is incredibly left leaning. She is supposed to be a DSA member, she doesn't want another DSA member in congress?
She's a careerist. Not an ideologically committed person.
She didn't get into this for socialism or ideology, she got into this with a vague idea that she could do something to make things better for people after seeing that others were not, and now she's just pursuing the personal climb upwards as her career.
Everything she says and does makes sense through this lens. She will always take the action that furthers her career.
Maybe I'm just more cynical but her pre-election life history, combined with her post-election actions, have convinced me that she never cared to do something to make things better. She saw pretending to care and pretending to want to do something to make things better as good optics to get her into a life-long seat, it has always been a cold calculated position.
She didn't get into this for socialism or ideology, she got into this with a vague idea that she could do something to make things better for people after seeing that others were not
Did she, though? I'm increasingly convinced that Joe Crowley was deliberately sacrificed as part of an effort to capture and divert the populist energy that was in the air. She definitely has connections from her internships and fell in line after a single milquetoast protest
her time in Niger is also sus, coinciding with a CIA-backed coup
Ooh, haven't heard about that.
Her whole "just a lil bartender blue collar worker!!" schtick was entirely calculated, she went from being an aide in a political office to bartending for less than a year directly into campaigning for her seat. She quit her lanyard job so she could pad her resume with one single blue collar job for her run.
Literally doing worse than Ro Khanna on this critical leadership question.
they only want to ingratiate to power and things of that nature.
She has her eyes on Pelosi's spot, and is modelling her game accordingly
Chi Ossé is a local politician (assembly member?) in NYC who has been actively supporting the SbWU strikers, among other things.
City Council member, also a DSA member
- trump is president
- you live in the district of a deeply unpopular guy that is seen by the liberal base as being ineffective
- you primary them on the farthest-left views allowed by the party
close enough, this is AOC 2018 vs AOC 2025 infighting
"AOC, the captain has ordered full steam ahead toward the iceberg. Do you support the first mate's plan to instead slow down and steer away from it?"
"I certainly don't think a primary challenge to the leader is a good idea right now." 
Nooo, you can't primary him! Not when he's just shown himself to be so stunningly effective!
New York City DSA members seen hellbent on demonstrating their liberalism and opportunism. Well, and AOC has some of the worst political instincts of all time.
"I'm Nancy Pelosi?" 
< Nancy Pelosi
Damn, honestly braindead take so they must be making promises to her which will inevitably be broken. I know we’re joking about AOC here, but Jeffries is literally Pelosi 2.0, her hand picked successor. There’s almost no bigger corporate shill in the house. He’s not only bad for the democrats, he’s toxic for the American people. Primary his ass!
I was arguing with a lib dipshit Jeffries fanboy apologist. He kept saying Jeffries is far more popular than people (can) understand. Eventually he gave his main point. His proof as he saw it was tha tJeffries is more popular than AOC. He posted at me with what seemed to be a copy paste thing he used before. It basically said last November - Jeffries got 168K votes (75%) and AOC only got 123,000 (69%).
He must've had a quickie look at my posting history and decided I was so far to the left of him that I'd run to AOC's defense. Or maybe I'd get mad? It's hilarious to me that centrists dems think any leftist is a over-the-moon and cuckoo for AOC. I was going to mention that the dems are historically unpopular (And Why is that?) but I realized I would be a fool to keep talking. You can't gain anything in talking to such people.
It's funny because libs love AoC
He couldn't say what he actually wanted to which was he loves Jeffries and everybody who doesn't agree with him is an idiot. I asked him what Jeffries and Schumer had planned once Trump's Gestapo appeared in NYC. The poor libs usually can't run to a fave go-to of saying stuff like "We'll see Trump in court!" I think the guy was so angry he wasn't able to think clearly.
He said what do I want? What can they do? They don't have an army. And he made fun of Mamdani's inability to get the NYPD to do anything and that "they don't even like him." I had a good laugh at all of that. It's leftists' fault that corporate beyond useless dems are beyond useless? And it's leftists' fault the NYPD is effectively a weird city-run dangerous military with a budget of ~$7 billion plus it hates its civilian oversight and it's even even got branches in foreign countries?
She’s such a moron. Genuinely, she’s so dumb. It’s so hard to attribute malice to her because she’s one of the few politicians I can concede has their heart in the right and isn’t explicitly maoicoous
taps the sign: assume malice instead of stupidity (especially in politicians).
probably got promised senate run or some shit behind closed doors, master of deals and so on.
isn’t explicitly maoicoous
That's the issue 
Her lack of political education just means she's being taught the basics from the ghouls and ratfuckers. She'll be a worthy steward of the DNC counterrevolutionary caucus in due course.
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I think that's mainly it. Like functionally speaking, she's an oppurtunist. But, i think it does mostly come from being dumb rather than some kind of plan or actual understanding
Expect a similar tack (or radio silence) from Mamdani
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/nyregion/chi-osse-hakeem-jeffries.html
And your immediate instinct may be “oh it’s the New York crimes, nothing they write is true,” then he should simply endorse the man. Especially now that he’s won
Mamdani not following DSA line should be humiliating for the entire organization.
Why? That's how it's structured on purpose. If you could be compelled to follow the party line, that would be Totalitarianism!
It’s possible he surprises me and suddenly endorses his comrade. But we’ll see
How can you be someone's comrade when nothing binds you together?
Despite the heavy irony behind my use of the word here, don’t they share an organization?
☭ 𝙈𝙖𝙧𝙜 𝙗𝙖𝙧 𝙖𝙢𝙧𝙞𝙆𝙆𝙆𝙖, 𝙢𝙖𝙧𝙜 𝙗𝙖𝙧 𝙞𝙎𝙎𝙧𝙖𝙚𝙡 ☪☫
"organization" seems pretty generous when discussing DSA
Brutal
Why are we asking a mayor about his opinions on the speaker of the house I am going to flip my shit
They’re both DSA members in New York running against establishment figures?
the guy would be leaving the city council, depriving Mamdani of a guaranteed ally. This is way more relevant than asking him about international stuff.
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Because if they don't constantly manufacture scenarios in which he has to Say The Right Thing or be Evil then people might actually support him
Dems scared shitless they might win and be made responsible for leading again.
Osse is a DSA city councilman in NYC. Actually, Zohran also disagrees with this, ostensibly because he wanted Osse as a voice on the council, but I wonder if the dem higher ups also wanted Zohran to keep him in line?
😤
She's running. 
Taking bets on what dirt it is they’ve got on her.
i don't think they need dirt, to whatever extent campaign AOC was real that's completely gone and has been gone for years
They don't need dirt on her. She chose to join one of the two right wing capitalist parties, she had clearly been planning a move into an elected seat many years in advance of running. She'll do what the party wants her to do because she, like all other elected Democrats, is a climber with very few actual convictions.
She went to brown, was an intern, and is a democrat. They don’t need Epstein files on a left lib careerist
Well AOC just did Schumers campaigning for 2028.
AOppurtunistC
Fine, I'll do it.
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