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Taiwan is officially listed as "Republic of China" in the US Social Security Administrstion's website. (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 days ago by DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works to c/mildlyinteresting@lemmy.world

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I always get curious about unrecognized states. I check the "T" section and there is no option for a "Taiwan" lol.

Didn't mean to make this political, just found it intriguing.

(Also fun fact: My grandmother is literally older than the country I was born in, PRC, in a way, she was technically born in a different country (ROC) than I was born in... well... I mean, same land, but a different state/government.)

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Chiang Kai-shenk vs. Mao Zedong. Chiang Kai-shenk vs. Mao Zedong never changes.

[–] bobagem@sh.itjust.works 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That is, in fact, their official name, according to them.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 days ago

according to them; but it's still remarkable that the US federal government uses that name because https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/chapter-48 keeps referring to it as "Taiwan" and § 3301 even talks about "the governing authorities on Taiwan recognized by the United States as the Republic of China prior to January 1, 1979"

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yep, though ROC government uses also "Republic of China (Taiwan)" or other similar forms to differentiate from PRC in official communication.

Taiwan is the name of the island, while ROC technically extends further to areas now controlled by PRC

Well that's what I just learned skimming through the wiki page.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

De jure, the RoC extends to all of China. So does the PRC. De facto, the RoC is pretty much just Taiwan and the PRC is the rest.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

De jure the ROC still claims Mongolia and parts of Russia and India.

[–] bobagem@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

TIL.

They are a feisty little island, aren't they.

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 day ago

We've had one, yes, but what about second China?

[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just commenting on your display name. Man of culture.

[–] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

el psy kongru

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

can you tell us why that's interesting

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz -4 points 1 day ago

I've had this discusion before after reading about it on wikipedia (i'm neither national, just curious).

Currently perplexity.ai says "Taiwan’s official name is Republic of China (ROC). This is the name used by the government that relocated to Taiwan after 1949, and it is still the constitutional title of the government based in Taipei. In practice, Taiwan is commonly referred to as Taiwan or the Taiwan authorities, while international organizations and some states use “Chinese Taipei” or ROC/Taiwan depending on context and diplomatic considerations. The situation is rooted in the historical split between the Republic of China (founded 1912 on the Chinese mainland) and the People's Republic of China (PRC, established in 1949 on the mainland) and the ongoing “One China” framework that affects formal recognition and naming in various forums."

Its looks like ROC came first, but i'm not sure why is everyone getting downvoted when they mention this name.

[–] dogbert@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago

As it should be