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[–] berno@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Dem leadership is ass. Rep leadership is ass.

We're cooked.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 195 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And once again Bernie Sanders is fucking correct

Yes he hasn’t signed on wanting Schumer to be replaced.

Either has AOC.

That’s it IMO. That’s the death of it all right there.

[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I really wish Bernie would enter the presidential as an independent. Not necessarily as the presidential pick but maybe as VP, given his age. Although if you see how the annoying orange has been doing recently I think Bernie could take over even in 4 years from now and be better.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I fear that by doing that it would split the left vote. Resulting in more easy Republican victories.

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Calling democrats "the left" is a bit funny...

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For the American Overton window. Of course they're more right wing when viewed in the light of European or even Canadian political sphere.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Or Asian sphere. Or South American sphere. Pretty much we're the crazies.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

This enslaver state has been an ongoing disaster since its inception.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 90 points 2 days ago (23 children)

Bernie should have started 3rd party when they cheated him out of the presidential nomination. He played it safe and achieved nothing.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Third party won't work in a FPTP system.

We can pass RCV in local elections across the country, but progressive Dems need to work within the party lines to get shit done.

And he is a 3rd party: Democratic Socialist.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Having two parties also doesn't work in any meaningful way. Democrats lost presidential elections to a convicted criminal and are unable to effectively use the tiny amount of power they still have. Yes, splitting Democratic vote would hand all the elections to Republicans but they ended up controlling everything anyway and people still don't have any real alternative. Destroying and rebuilding the Democratic party from scratch would get you closer to a functioning system than trying to work withing party lines.

Bernie lost almost a decade ago. The political scene would look completely different by now (maybe some sort of joined primaries between Dems and Bernie's party). He had a once in a lifetime chance to really change the system but chose not do do it.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

but they ended up controlling everything anyway

Republicans have been completely aligned since Trump came into office. Democrats instead have had spoiler candidates that have almost completely ruined their plans in the Biden Admin.

We should be focused on primary-ing out the moderates and establishment candidates in the party. Yes the DNC always has the ability to shut shit down as they did in 2016 with Bernie, but if the movement is strong enough, I wager that won't matter.

chose not do do it

Bernie got snubbed by the DNC in 2016??? Hello?

And Biden capitulated to Bernie in 2020 by adopting his policies, only later abandoning them like an asshole.

Bernie has rarely chosen at any point NOT to change the system.

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[–] theoneandonlyeggboi@lemmings.world 48 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Americans are too stupid to vote for a 3rd party and they're too stupid to implement any kind of ranked choice voting.

We all suffer because of our collective stupidity, and rich people continue to profit off of it.

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, we aren't too stupid to implement ranked choice voting, we live in a country run by people who have a vested interest in not implementing it

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Por que no los dos?

MA lost the ballot initiative for ranked choice voting by lobbyists who made enough people believe it's too complicated.

Too complicated? Motherfucker you've been ranking favorite things longer than you've been shitting on a toilet.

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[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Oh, yeah. Bernie Sanders achieved nothing. What a wonderfully well grounded take. Not delusional at all. 🙄

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago

The rich assholes in Washington do not care about us. They are set for life with the best Healthcare in the world. Why should they care about us?

Fuck the democrats. Fuck the Republicans more, but these democrats need to fucking go as well. They all need to go.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago

I think the Democratic leadership is now certain to follow the Whigs into the Home for Infinite Losers, alongside the Republicans too. That situation sounds VERY familiar. "They flip-flopped, then they caved."

The Whigs Collapse! | Why Slavery Killed the Age of Jackson

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm thinking that the US needs to go back to A/B testing. The "christians" in the midwest think social safety nets and "free handouts" should be illegal? They can get that. The countries who want them handouts, however, get them. And in 30 years we compare how's everyone doing.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The biggest problem with leaving it up to the states is that the party that is always harping on about states' rights is a bunch of disingenuous liars who immediately start restricting states' rights the second the state doesn't do what they want.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They refuse to fund disasters and social programmes in "blue" states while demanding it in theirs. Gloat about "voting to repeal Obama care" while taking credit for ACA (the same thing) in their home state (cause people like it)

It feels like there's basically no point in trying to make a deal with them

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I’m thinking that the US needs to go back to A/B testing.

Like the Civil War?

[–] Tippy@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Incredibly relevant discourse for the current US political environment

Apologies for reddit link, can't upload video directly in a comment on lemmy. The information this individual covers is absolutely vital for understanding modern politics in the US, and needs to be common knowledge if the US is ever going to recover from the exploitation that has led us here.

Most on lemmy will already be aware of the basics covered here, but for anyone confused as to why dems always choose failure in the most frustrating ways, this will explain it for you. This is why we need to support actual progressives who refuse to be bought and paid for.

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[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Can someone explain to me simply (and I'm assuming the answer to that is "no"), why they can't force the insurance companies to compete with each other on price. That would seem to be the obvious "free market republican" thing to do, and a prerequisite for removing the fat subsidy to the insurance companies that they're currently trying to remove.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because insurance doesn’t work like a normal product or good.

What ends up happening is they charge as much as they possibly can. The book “an American sickness” explains all the problems if you’re interested.

The ACA was never going to be great. It was the best that could get passed.

[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It wasn't the best that could get passed. The Dems had a super majority during Obama's 1st two years and could have gotten us Medicare for all, but Rahm Emmanuel blocked it.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rahm wasn't the bad guy. He was one of many bad guys. The list of Democrats (politicians, not voters) who were actually for Medicare for all was smaller than the list who were actually against it. Not because it would be bad policy, but because $$$$.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not because it would be bad policy, but because $$$$.

lol ok. But somehow they never lack money for the MIC, etc. Dems are trash.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago

I guess I was unclear. I don't mean to say that the Dems are worried at all about spending money. I just meant that the Dems are worried about doing anything that might jeopardize that sweet, sweet donor cash.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Joe Lieberman blocked it. Rahm Emanuel was just the president’s chief of staff who tried to talk him out of it. Joe Lieberman was the senator from Connecticut, where all the old money lives.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

So insurance companies have to pay back out to their insured 85% of all money they collect each year. Been that way since the 1970's.

What this means is that they WANT medical costs to be as high as possible. 15% of a $2,000 ambulance ride is a lot more than 15% of a $500 ambulance ride.

So the insurance companies have spent decades forcing hospitals to increase costs (charge more or we'll make your hospital out of our network and no one will come to your hospital).

What this means is that as long as insurance companies exist, there isn't really a "compete on costs" possibility. They're already paying back out 85%. At most they might be able to make things 5% cheaper. There's no competition because there's no real areas to cut costs, by design.

The only fix is to eliminate insurance all together and go single payer, or to legally force hospitals to drop all their billing costs down to levels on par with the rest of the world, and both those options will be fought tooth and nail by insurance companies, since one would make their business disappear and the later would make their 15% cut for profits and overhead vastly smaller.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

What if all American's cancel their insurance. Why are we paying these people for a service that they don't provide!? If I'm going to be sick and broke because my insurance is too expensive to actually use, why not be sick and broke while not giving them our money.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

well because 3 times the premium cost is still far below the cost of surgery. i am currently recovering from the removal of a cyst in my jaw that ate half my jaw leaving bone barely 3 playing cards thick in some areas. there was nothing i could have done to avoid it. the surgery too make the marsupilisation to drain the area alone was $3500, with only pain numbing. still awaiting the final surgery cost, but the anastegeologist is $1500 that i have to pay. and the stitches from my mandolin accident costs me an additional $1500.

this is ALL what i have to pay, while i have silver level coverage

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