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What older movies made a good use of either side stepping special effects or have effects that somehow still hold up today? Why are they good movies?

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Would Aliens be acceptable here?.The practical effects were incredibly well done as were the matte paintings.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wizard of Oz sepia "filter" fits in here?

I'm also going to in honesty pick Brazil (1985). It still holds up really well.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago

The Thing. Effects hold up astonishingly well today.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago

Jurassic Park comes to mind. The scene with the raptors in the kitchen uses a mix of puppets and CGI.

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Lord of the Rings.

[–] anomoly_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was kind of shocked how well Flight of the Navigator held up when I rewatched it for the first time as an adult a couple of years ago. The effects used for the ship were great.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Matrix 1. Other than some CGI, it doesn't have so much special effects as much as it has special camera tricks.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How dare you, matrix does not qualify for old movie yet. Right? Right????

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[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 94 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a masterpiece of clever tricks, superb acting, and professional animation.

The Thing still has the best practical movie monster effects I have ever seen. And the most upsetting.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a breathtaking film that uses wirework choreography to transport you into a storybook fantasy.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Tron. Vector graphics and filters gave a better effect than any of the weak sequels.

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[–] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The original Jurassic Park. Crazy to think that movie came out in 1993, over 32 years ago.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

The fifth element.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The Thing, Terminator 2, Jurassic Park, Alien(s), ET - just from top of my head. The Thing would be my favorite out of the bunch. No CGI, just pure and hardcore man-made effects.

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[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Lord of the Rings effects still hold up, in my opinion at least. The Balrog uses a lot of "hidden" information with the use of blackness to cover up bad cgi. Horse charges are zoomed out far enough to disguise how few horses are actually there. Most of the movies use practical effects though.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 50 points 3 days ago

There is an enormous amount of CGI in Lord of the Rings that you don’t really notice. Yes they used lots of miniatures and other practical effects, but that only takes you so far. The extended DVDs are full of some of the really cool ways they combined digital and practical. They show PJ “filming” at one point with a block of wood with a mocap ball on it.

They invented an entire new software just to make the huge battle scenes good. That software, Massive, is still used today to simulate giant crowds.

Gollum hasn’t aged perfectly, but pretty well for an entirely CGI character from the early 2000s.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

old movies

Lord of the Rings

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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

We had an apprentice at work a few years ago who had never seen those movies. The first was released the year he was born.

I shrivelled into a corpse as he told me that.

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[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Tremors.

Great practical effects for the time the movie came out. Further, they were very clever about only showing you the worm a few times. Screamers style graboid rooster tails during chases was campy, but just the right kind of campy.

Do not talk to me about anything after tremors 3 because none of that shit is Canon imo. Honestly tremors 3 was the beginning of the end but ill still always love them assblasters

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

2001 looks awesome still, despite being a space film from the 60s

[–] lime@feddit.nu 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

2001 a space odyssey's effects are completely practical, which make sense since it came out before the first moon landing. it's all physical models and cut-out photographs being moved in stop-motion, or huge rotating sets to simulate centrifugal gravity, or colored film being spun over a set of rollers.

personally i think it's worth it to watch it for the effects alone, which is just as well because its influence is such that it has been eclipsed story-wise by things that came after it and so feels a bit shallow.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kubrick was in charge of faking the moon landing, but he insisted on shooting it on location.

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Princess Bride

The flames are real flames! The R.O.U.S. is a tiny guy in a suit! The giant is... Andre the Giant!

Yeah, the behind the scenes stuff for that movie is wild.

They had to keep reshooting the fire swamp scene, because Cary Elwes (Westley/Dread Pirate Roberts) kept panicking every time Robin Wright (Princess Buttercup) got lit on fire.

The R.O.U.S. scene had to be delayed, because they had to go bail the dude in the rat suit out of jail. He had apparently gotten too drunk the night before, and was in the drunk tank on the morning that they were supposed to shoot the R.O.U.S. scene.

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Alien,
the original 1979 one.

Imo it really aged well,
recently rewatched it and was amazed by how good the special effects looked, especially for that time.

It's also a really good movie,
scores 8.5/10 on IMDB,
kept me on the tip of my chair for the full 2 houra.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nobody sidestepped special effects like film noir did. They made a whole genre out of, "If we dim the lights enough, nobody will notice we stole this set from a different movie."

The history of film noir is something really special that came together due to a unique set of circumstances (saddle up for an infodump). The Great Depression had given popularity to pulp fiction novels, generally focusing on working class protagonists struggling to keep a roof over their heads, and often viewing power and social structures through cynical terms. Meanwhile, in Germany, Hitler destroyed the German film industry, which had previously been the best in the world. A bunch of people who were generally some combination of gay/Jewish/communist/film makers came to America and brought their expertise, expressionist style, and antifascist perspectives to Hollywood, where it blended with existing American culture to create something entirely new.

Every iconic aspect of film noir was that way for a reason - even if the reason was often, "saving money," like I mentioned before. The older, grizzled detective and the young femme fatale were cast out of necessity, especially during wartime when young men who would have otherwise dominated those roles were out fighting (or expected to be). While of course they are product of their time and can contain sexist themes, they provided roles for women that were more complex and had more agency than before. And they were also subject to censorship, but some movies, such as Crossfire (1947), snuck hidden meanings under the radar. The book Crossfire was based on was centered around a homophobic murder, but the Hays Code prohibited any mention of homosexuality, so the plot was changed to a racist/antisemitic murder (which also capitalized on the anti-Nazi sentiment of the time) - but with subtext alluding to the original plot. The effect is that the two forms of bigotry are linked together (tagline: "Hate Is Like A Loaded Gun!"), and the director later said that the Code, "had a very good effect because it made us think. If we wanted to get something across that was censorable... we had to do it deviously. We had to be clever. And it usually turned out to be much better than if we had done it straight."

Film noir's fans cut across demographics, popular with women and men alike. Back in those days, going to the movie theater was an all-day affair with multiple films shown, and film noir movies generally occupied the role of "B movies" (necessitating their cheap production values), but the point is that they were just targeted towards... moviegoers. And I don't want to paint it as just, "foreign socialists promoting their agenda through hidden messages" or that sort of thing, it genuinely was a blending of perspectives and cultures that (much as I hate to say it as a certified America hater) really represents America at it's best, the dream that we ought to aspire to. There really was something magical happening in the cultural dialogue that these movies are the product of.

But of course, we're not allowed to have nice things. Due to McCarthyism, the alliances and blending of cultures and ideas that had allowed the genre to exist were ripped apart. People were pressured to name names and sell out their colleagues, which spawned distrust and animosity, betrayal and grudges that would disrupt the industry even after the direct threat had passed. And eventually replacing film noir and it's proletarian focus and cynical view of society, came the spy movies, glorifying government agents infiltrating other countries as part of this global ideological conflict against communism. Propagandizing trash. Dead art taking no risks and presenting nothing to challenge the audience.

Anyway, film noir is cool and fun and artsy and had a progressive (for its time, at least) current insofar as it was allowed to.

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[–] eightpix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Off the top of my head:

  • Pan's Labyrinth (CGI augments excellent practical effects)

  • Ghostbusters (1984)

  • The Cell (CGI augments excellent set and costume design).

  • The Abyss (1989)

  • Interstellar (had to check if this was CGI).

With research: Speed and The Edge of Tomorrow are fun. Also, I am annoyed at myself that I forgot Aronofsky's the Fountain — a beautiful, painful film.

Practical scenes with mentioning:

  • That one scene in Chinatown, "they lose their noses!"

  • That one scene in Boogie Nights, "I'm a big bright shining star."

  • That last arrow in Throne of Blood

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

The Abyss holds up fantastically for being from the 80's.

[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Came here to mention this.

The way Lumet uses camera angles to create tension and reinforce the personalities of the characters, especially how he makes the room look smaller and more claustrophobic as time moves on, is simply masterful.

[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I did not expect the viewing journey when I started to watch it. I was so impressed!!

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 17 points 2 days ago

Only the best Xmas movie if all time - Gremlins.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Mary Poppins. The (as it possibly happens) one of a kind lense that perfectly matched the frequency of light produced by sodium vapor lamps. It produced a green screen like effect that was better than anything else for decades to come.

Look at the above image above and notice how perfectly you can see the background through the diaphanous fabric of the hat.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The wild part about it is that this technique required a very specific prism in the camera in order to work properly, and the tech behind it was completely lost to time and nobody else knew how to make that work, which is why we've primarily had blue/green screens with chunky matte lines ever since. The guys at Corridor Digital managed to recreate the effect pretty authentically, and it's awesome to see the results of their work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQuIVsNzqDk

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Jaws.

The shark prop didn’t work well and looked terrible, which resulted in much of it being left out of the movie. The movie is more terrifying because of this.

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[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

Young Frankenstein

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

Blade Runner (1982) still looks incredible. The miniatures and attention to detail in design effectively set the tone for subsequent cyberpunk.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Star wars, with models and miniatures.

Most great old movies, where cheesy effects were irrelevant next to the story.

Gravity Falls Little Gift Shop of Horrors, where the characters watch an 'incredibly expensive' stop motion scene that we (the audience) only see as reflected shadows.

[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Just gave the special editions a rewatch. The cgi inserted scenes have aged incredibly poorly, especially compared to the rest of the 1977 effects

[–] stevethegeek@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The "Despecialized" editions are the best right now. I appreciate what Lucas wanted to do in the 90s but I wish he'd just left the originals alone.

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[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

And matte paintings. Never forget the legendary artists who turned paintings into scenery, or the camera workers who managed to blend in the actors to them.

  • That first legendary pan-down to Tattooine, which the Tantive IV and Star Destroyer then fly past? Matte painting.
  • The sterile hangars and seemingly-bottomless pits of the Death Star? Matte painting.
  • The busy Rebel hangar on Yavin IV? Also a matte painting. I seem to remember reading that some of the hangar floor markings - besides making it look like an actual hangar - served to help align the matte with the set shots and coordinate extras so they wouldn't accidentally walk out of the filmed segment and behind a matte portion.
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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The Thing. Also, I recently went back and rewatched some of my favorite old Jackie Chan movies from his early years and MAN are they still so much fun.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Jackie Chan is willing to be sawn in half rather than use CGI to appear to be sawn in half.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Gremlins. My brother and I were just discussing this because we heard that the new Gremlins movie will be using analog effects.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bud Spencer & Terrence Hill movies

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Just compare Gladiator vs Gladiator 2 to see how awful CGI is today vs what could be achieved using it modestly before.

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