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If you ever tried the infamous "Update and shut down" option in any Windows build, it often leads to a reboot instead to an actual shutdown. Now, Microsoft has finally fixed this issue starting with Windows 11 25H2 Build 26200.7019 (or 26100.7019 on 24H2). According to the Windows Latest, Microsoft has shipped this broken functionality way back with Windows 10, and has never fixed it since. However, the Windows teams working behind the update have finally managed to ship a working solution with a note stating in Windows 11 experiences that the new build: "Addressed underlying issue which can cause "Update and shutdown" to not actually shut down your PC after updating."

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[–] JFLennson@feddit.org 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So it actually was a bug. All these years I gaslit myself I was too tired, too high or maybe just missclicked this time. That's actually funny. How fucking incapable is Microsoft xd?

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Haha same. There's been times I woke up to find my PC on when I was sure I had turned it off, so figured I must have forgot.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Can they fix the "randomly turn itself back on and drain the battery while in its bag so that it's always dead when you actually need to use it on the go" problem?

Because that's been a problem for like 20 years at this point and means I have to treat my laptops as if they don't actually have batteries because it's schrodinger's power any time I pull one out to work.

I was at a conference this week, and half the attendees were huddled in the cafeteria the whole time because there were some tables on one wall with outlets.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Had a friend who used to put his super-workstation laptop in his backpack. It would randomly turn itself back on and get HOT in there at times, like firestarter hot.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Yep. And since I carry 3 laptops in my backpack (2 for work and one personal), it's a problem.

Though I will say the fact that all 3 can be powered by Type-C cables has been since huge life improvement since i don't need to carry around 3 different charging bricks.

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

It's probably because your computer has quick boot turned on which isn't actually fully shut off. More like a deep hibernate which can still receive magic packets that can turning it on for updates and such. If it's a work laptop it's almost certainly because your work has set up so it wakes up when they push an update. It's more of an issue with how your work has set up group policies. You can turn off magic packets in advanced network settings if you have admin access to your computer, which you may not if it's a company laptop.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Maybe one day they’ll fix applications on the task bar not focusing when you click on them, don’t get confused here, these are applications already open and in the background but clicking the icon on the taskbar occasionally does nothing until you manually bring it to the foreground.

Wild this is a billion dollar company.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 5 points 5 days ago

Also the fact CTRL-C randomly doesn't copy.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So that’s not just me! I’ve also had Alt+Tab get stuck showing all windows and not move to the selected one lately. Gahhh.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think you missing just a few zeroes there.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean technically I am right, they are worth at least 1 billion dollars, didn’t feel like looking up their gross/net earnings.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 2 points 5 days ago

It was meant as a tongue in cheek, not a dig at you :)

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago

Also, only the main screen time and date button actually pulls the calendar up. That works on all screens in Win 10. It's incredibly annoying

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

I don't think windows is how they make most of their money

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Good timing. The straw the broke the camel’s back before switching to Linux two months ago was watching my PC reboot after “update and shutdown” and saying “I shouldn’t have to deal with this!”

[–] phubarr@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

"Too little, too late"

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For me it was not being able to keep a homebridge VM from crashing. Threw it on Debian and it hasn’t gone down once. Dual booting for now but I’m moving everything over. The final piece was seeing how fast Debian copies files. It’s instant most of the time. Made me realize that the “nice” speed dialog is literally just show and slowing down the functionality by quite a bit. What a pig.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah if you copy files from the command line it's so much faster.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

That's basically what pissed me off too, but instead I set up an MECM server to control updates.

What finally made me switch is it bluescreened on boot after an update. Even a fresh install, as soon as I applied the latest update, it bluescreened every time again. No point in fighting that when Debian is right there and it Just Works.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 5 days ago

Wow Microsoft have actually introduced the one and only reason to update to Windows 11.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

maybe next they can work on making shut down actually shut down too, instead of me coming back three hours later to the remainders of a poor attempt

[–] nukeforyou@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] a_postmodern_hat@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Was this typed from muscle memory?

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It might be your hardware. I just migrated from a Ryzen 5 laptop (with much better battery life than its Core i5 cousins in the office) to a new Core Ultra laptop and the difference in shutdown time is striking. Mostly because it actually shuts down all the spreadsheets and office BS I have open while the Ryzen one would hang. I normally don’t like Intel chips but this generation seems to be pretty good. Could be RAM too. Old laptop had 24GB, new one has 32GB.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 24 points 6 days ago

Excellent. Sometimes I'd use the option for my work machine on a Friday only to find the fucking thing had rebooted instead.

Let's see if it behaves when I do it in an hour or two.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One reason why it's trash, tackled. A million more to go. Can't wait to see their progress in 2036

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

More bugs, less fixes.

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

Oh, this was a general issue? It was driving me crazy as I was certain I hit "shut down" instead of "reboot". I am soon getting a Linux laptop at work anyway (I've only been waiting about 5 montha for it now, so any day now!) - so I will hopefully not experience this fix.

[–] blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago
[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

For now. In due time, they will have some regression much like how Windows always breaks down and makes me cry.

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

A couple years ago I had a windows update lead to an error message that says no device drivers found. Tried installing windows again, still says that shit. I downloaded all the available drivers. Strange how I had drivers and then suddenly not. Linux working good though.

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