How many of them are actually illegal immigrants?
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2025
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Technically? Probably more than you'd expect. But in like a "someone forgot one check box on one document 30 years ago and it just never got fixed because really who cares it's just a formality" kind of way
Personally, I don't give a shit if someone came here legally or not. Crossing an imaginary government line on a map somewhere isn't a real crime.
Even though imaginary government lines on maps have existed for several hundred years now, it has only been considered a crime to cross them for about 100 years.
The hard border, border control, etc didnt exist until after 1900. Before that, people in northern Mexico and the southern US just went about their business in both countries as needed, and it was a significantly more functional region of the world.
They rally against the cartels as the reason for needing a more and more extreme hard border, but the hard border is what fucked up the entire region in the first place, thereby creating the conditions for the cartels to thrive
In the US, it isn't a crime at all. It's a civil infraction. This whole thing is a farce.
I wonder if this is costing us more than just letting the courts do their jobs.
The cost is going to be much worse than money. This will be an inescapable shame, a stain that history won't forget, which is saying a lot when compared to the rest of the shit America does.
I have no doubt this is costing the economy millions of dollars. Most of these people are working and spending and paying sales and fuel taxes, and those that are trying to become citizens would be paying income taxes.
But hey, CoreCivic and the GEO Group are raking in the cash, and that's all that matters.
/s
There’s no way these people are being treated humanely. It takes time to establish the infrastructure, train new staff, and do all the other things necessary to expand this much and still treat people humanely.
The conditions must be breaking so many laws, and most of these people haven’t been charged with a crime, right?
detainee population
a rather forced euphemism
Likely a lot more than what is being reported.
We are paying to house (poorly) all of these people, unnecessarily in most cases, when there are plenty of citizens with housing needs. Massive waitlists of people. Hell, abducting working immigrants puts even more people at risk of homelessness. Is he looking to restart Hoovervilles?
Why not? He's already working on bread lines.
Private companies get about $100 per day per person they imprison. That's why they want to grab as many as possible. Then it will clog up the courts and they can keep them even longer.
Remember, every accusation is a confession. And republicans abuse dems of faking numbers. If-so fact-so they could be pumping their numbers to get more money from the government without actually having that many people. I mean the number should be zero but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out these numbers are inflated.
Concentration camps.
A record high... Of course its a record high.