He killed it. Lindsey Graham was right
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2025
304 points (98.4% liked)
politics
26349 readers
4729 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
This one? https://youtu.be/mkXIWPmdfdo
Edit: no wait, this one? https://youtu.be/6MTTug24lpE
Edit2: Ohhh, no, it’s gotta be this one right? https://x.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/727604522156228608
Thank you for the citations.
The Mierdas Touch.
USA according to tRump: Dead country, dead parties... jeeze, what's next a dead president?!
what's next a dead president?!
I'd be OK with Trump killing that guy.
He's falling into our Cardiac Trap. 🤫
Give it a minute. The American general public had at least ten years to get familiar with Trump and what he's about. His plans for this year were not hidden, even a little bit. They voted him in again anyway just a year ago. Now they're acting like this was all an unexpected shock.
All we learned from this week is that Americans are capable of remembering not to put their hand on the hot stove a third time, provided their other hand is still on the same hot stove from the second time.
Our media went to great lengths to hide the bad shit about this pedo and to amplify any and every flaw about Biden/Harris. Even the "left wing media" that the right likes to cry about also did this. And many won't care until it directly affects themselves, and even then only one that specific topic.
The American general public had at least ten years to get familiar with Trump and what he's about.
Far longer than that.
He's been known publicly as a sack of shit since at least the '90s.
But then puffed up as a genius business man by The Apprentice. Remember that most people the world over are absolutely rock-stupid and will believe whatever's on TV. "He ripped off everyone he ever did business with and bankrupted every company he ever started" "Whatever, I like the way he says 'You're fired!' He must be great at businessing!"
It's not that the public forgot, but that leadership failed to offer an alternative other than "not Trump". When the Democrats do offer an alternative like Mamdani, people show up. And 80% of those that showed up voted for him, not against the other candidate. Not even Obama accomplished that.
Just shows how dumb Americans really are. And comparing a presidential election to a material one. And the most votes cast is also BS they're going by numbers and I assume in 2025 the population is higher then in 1989. But 34% voter turnout is good for a municipal election but not the barn burner your describing. And still a lot of people not voting. And the progressives seem to only care to vote when Trump is in power. The second election after Trump they won't show up again as they don't care.
It’s wasn’t “not Trump”. It was NOT FASCISM. That people STILL don’t understand this, while further entrenching themselves within faulty logic bodes poorly for the future.
America will be remembered as a cautionary tale on not leaning from history…
Eventually the rest of the world will build a wall around US.
What will the Democratic leadership learn from Mamdani's win?
They've only taken away "charismatic" candidate
load more comments
(10 replies)
Don't be mistaken, Mandani's win is not America's win, it's NY win. America as a whole is way more stupid and way more evil than that. Hell, even broad democratic voters are worse than that, Bernie lost popular vote on primaries twice afterall.
It was not just "not Trump", it was "not insane", and not threatening to tear down democracy and destroy healthcare and the economy. It was business as usual over sociopathy.
The choice should have been clear. But too many Americans are sociopaths, and chose to really stick it to the minorities until they die. Americans voted for Trump not despite he is a sociopath, but because of it. Americans want revenge for their lousy lives more than they want to improve things for everybody.
The Dems won other places than New York.
It was "not Trump, status quo." Nobody but the rich liked the status quo, but anybody who's not an idiot knew it was MUCH, MUCH BETTER than...well, what we have now.
When the Democrats do offer an alternative like Mamdani, people show up.
I'd like to rephrase that to make a point: When progressive voters show up and vote in the primaries for the more progressive candidate, there's more likely to be a more progressive Democratic candidate on the ballot in the general and people will show up for them.
Point is the Democratic Party powers that be did not willingly "offer an alternative like Mamdani". They hated that he was the candidate and tried to get Cuomo elected instead. Mamdani was only "offered" thanks to the voters who showed up and voted for him in the primary.
You're telling me people have to get off their ass and not just bitch online? Cmon now... /s
And that is the real problem progressive voters are not reliable as a block. So nobody caters to them.
And in general they continue to bitch regardless even if they get what they want. They'll turn on their own politicians in an instant and dislike it even when they get what they were asking for- ie. Hochul or whomever to endorse.
load more comments
(2 replies)
He’s too narcissistic to even realize the irony that it is his policies, his incompetent appointees, and his apoplectic abuse that is crashing the GOP. It is insane that the meltdown has been this glacially paced.
He’ll be back; we’re in the devaluation phase of the narcissistic abuse cycle. Next, he’ll try to discard the whole party to start his own. When his finds that unworkable, he’ll come slithering back.
Let’s just hope this time most republicans will be too exhausted to continue propagandizing themselves with Trump’s inane double-think.
America, the abused house wife, is realizing how abusive their husband is ...... again.
I don't understand how the working class folks "shifted" to Democratic party.
Haven't the democrats been the working class party all along?
Even with W, there was a huge "smart sounding" = coastal elite narrative going with their: he looks like a guy you could have a beer with. Which apparently is more important than not kneecapping your union, demolishing the economy, or starting illegal wars
Theoretically. In, practice, not so much, but far more than the Republicans, and that's the problem with the neo-liberal Democrat party.
Citizens United made bribery legal, and the working class has been broken down for decades and forced into poverty.
There is no American "working class" party, because they can't afford to bribe any of the parties. Democrats sorta kinda pretend to care, occasionally, so they are currently wearing the mantle.
Citizens United made it worse, but we were fucked before then. Lobbying is just legalized bribery. We need to repeal Citizens United but then we need to keep going and rework the whole campaign finance and lobbying systems too.
Working class people tend to be less-educated, live in more rural areas, be a part of less-diverse communities, and be prone to accept authority figures. And the GOP has spent a half-century trying to convince that exact group that every problem they're experiencing is actually the opposite. So they vote against their best interests in election after election, and then the people they voted for successfully convince them that the Democrats actually torpedoed it all and they could've actually made everything better if they just had one more term...rinse and repeat across 25+ election cycles.
Working class people tend to be less-educated, live in more rural areas
I think the working class is much broader than that, and part of our problem is this perception.
load more comments
(4 replies)
load more comments
(10 replies)
I'm terms of policy, yes. But a lot of dipshit blue collar workers believe the propaganda from Fox News and adjacent outlets, and their propaganda says that the republican party is the party of the working class, so a lot of the working class votes republican. These people believe what they're told instead of using critical thinking skills to observe and analyze the actual actions taking place. Some of them are finally starting to wake up, but they'll fall back asleep the moment somebody more palatable than trump rises up and keeps the pain focused on marginalized groups instead of leaking out to hurt rural whites so much and so obviously.
I hope that AI development makes the internet and social media so dogshit that it pushes people to spend less time in online echo chamber spaces and more time in person with actual people face to face. We're radically divided due to algorithms slapping us with culture war bullshit, so we're forgetting that so many of us are united in wanting comfortable homes, affordable food, leisure time and money to enjoy with our families, and peace of mind that we're safe and secure. Crying about trans athletes does nothing for my family, but my father in law being furloughed during this shutdown due to an insistence on taking healthcare away from my sister sure as shit impacts my family.
Of course I don't want people to suffer, but some people will just never see what the fuck is actually happening until it affects them or people close to them. And those of us who already know are just that much more pissed off when these people only just now start to figure it out and cry for help now that it's hurting somebody other than the out group. And it's gonna be extra infuriating when they forget all about the pain they were finally exposed to and turn around and vote for it all over again. Mark my words, trump is not the last fascist these people will have sold their decency to support. They will forget where it got them within weeks.
load more comments
(2 replies)
Not since at least the Clinton years. The US doesn’t have a mainstream working class party.
Hasn't been one in the anglosphere in general for a long time. The NDP is the closest but they've given up their working class cred years ago. And labor, well, if Blair didn't convince you they were a lost cause Starmer will. I'm not familiar enough with auspol but I'd imagine the trend holds.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Haven’t the democrats been the working class party all along?
Relatively speaking, at least...
NOT true! As long as they CONTINUE Firing Millions of American Workers while Kidnapping Children, Raising GROCERY prices, ELIMINATING Air Travel, raising Healthcare Premiums and PROTECTING Rich Child Rapists America will WELCOME the Republicans with open arms in the Midterms! The TIMING is what was Wrong NOT the Policies!
It’s a well known fact that the party in power usually suffers losses during midterms. So it’s great that DEMs are winning. But it isn’t over by any stretch. Gotta keep fighting.
These weren't midterms, they were an off-year election. The midterms will be next year.
They are usually low turnout, but saw a historic turnout in NY and NJ, not sure about the others offhand.
Off-years you do not typically see this kind of sweeping response, its absolutely atypical.
I'm not suggesting its time to stop, but clarifying that this is not the norm.
load more comments
(5 replies)
Hmmm, wonder who killed it
view more: next ›