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Has anyone ever discussed how insane the bounty on Maduro is? Just a cash reward to kill/imprison the elected leader of a country you have no jurisdiction over? Imagine if Russia put a bounty out on Finland's PM and tried multiple times to kill/kidnap them. We'd probably be starting the mobilization already.

But if the US does it? Crickets

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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm encountering a lot of Americans recently and it's exceptionally fun pointing these kind of things out to them. A lot of the time it's as if they actually know about whatever US or western crime it is I bring up but they have literally never considered it's implications.

The number of times I've had to answer the "But what if China invades Taiwan" question, to which I point out the never ending wars and illegal bombing campaigns of the US empire, and tell them who I'm really scared of. Or what do I think of the spooky Chinese surveillance state.

I had all this yesterday when I was with a big group of Americans. There was actually a Chinese American with them as well and his relief when he started hearing my opinion was palpable. We had a lot of fun explaining how the social credit system simply didn't exist.

Anyway, yeah. Most propagandised people on earth.

[–] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What if China invades Taiwan? What if the USA invades Alaska?! It's always so fun to see the absolute bewilderment of other Americans when pointed out that historically, the government has acknowledged the one China policy (and that one China policy is correct).

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what if the US invades puerto rico, and also the confederacy had fled there after losing the civil war

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago

and if the US wasn't a settler colony with no historical ties to Puerto Rico or any of the land it stole

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean the average citizen of the west legit thinks Maduro is some kingpin drug dealer hiding in a jungle like they would see in a James bond movie.

[–] The_Filthy_Commie@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US is a mafia state. I know a lot of you have considered this before, but when you look at every action the US takes, it parallels what organized crime does. From the DEA being the world's largest cartel, the extrajudicial killings of fishermen in the Caribbean, to the CIA selling crack to our black and brown communities, and putting bounties on people who don't obey them. isn'treal, too, to turn Gaza into a ''Miami of West Asia'', wiping off entire communities for condo projects. And speaking of that soulless hellscape, Miami, where do all our gusano terrorists end up? In fucking Florida. They not only protect pieces of shit, they encourage them.

Even US citizens are held hostage by this system. From the moment you're born, the hospitals and healthcare companies take a cut, and put your parents into debt. When you go to school you gotta pay for lunch and books. When you want a house, you gotta take a mortgage, if you want a car, that's another long term payment. And workers, which means most of us, are its primary victims. They tie your healthcare to your job, even your social security isn't secure. If you even consider rebelling, they fire you, you lose your ''benefits'', healthcare and miss payments. ''If you don't pay, you don't play''. Everything is designed to milk you for every penny you've got. Even when you die it ain't free, your family's gonna have to pay for your burial.

And this is without getting into everything else the US does around the world, from funding paramilitaries, dictatorships, coups, stealing shit with 0's on a screen with their exorbitant privilege and getting away with a free lunch, like Michael Hudson often says. And if the world rebels? They've got nukes, their military at our doorsteps, and their agents of empire working within our countries through NGO's or the state. The US blackmails its own people and the world into playing their game through threats of violence, withholding funds, putting bounties, sanctions, and murdering anyone, anywhere, that gets in their way. It's a rogue state against any notion of international law, which is why they want an ''international rules order'' instead. Rules for thee, but not for me.

And I didn't even get into the internal politics of the US, with lobbying being legal, and people tied to all kinds of criminal activity.

[–] Darkcommie@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why don’t they? Put a bounty on trump or keir stamer the ICC and the UN are a useless organisation china and Russia should be trying to leave it at this point

[–] ComradeRandy@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago

The last time Russia tried to boycott the UN due to the refusal to recognize the communist chinese government it led to MacArthur gaining full control over UN forces and invading Korea.