i just really hate snap
I always read 'did not finish'
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2025
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The most racing of all the package managers
Or the least.
DNFΒ (abbreviation forΒ Dandified YUM)
These guys at Redhat donβt know how abbreviations work, I guess.
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I always see "did not find"
I used to work at the devil and I heard DNF from players all the time. Once I realized DNF was the package manager in fedora (recent switch) I never forgot the command again. It's burned into my brain.
dnf5 ist pretty fast, almost pacman/apk level fast
I've been specifically avoiding Ubuntu because of snaps, instead preferring Ubuntu derivatives that don't use it, like Mint and Pop.
And more recently, trying an entirely different approach with Arch.
And yes - I could get rid of snaps in Ubuntu if I wanted. But everything is just a little more annoying when you are going against the conventions of your distro.
You could try Debian, it's basically Ubuntu without snaps.
More like Ubuntu is Debian with snaps and a CEO
I could.
Though I suppose it may be semantically more appropriate to say that Ubuntu is Debian with snaps (and with a bunch of other stuff too)
Thank you! It always irritates me when someone does say Debian is Ubuntu but without XYZ... No, Debian was first. Ubuntu is a Debian child that got molded into something that no Linux should ever be..
Linux Mint is Debian with snaps without snaps!
(I am now going to take this opportunity to point you all towards Linux Mint DE (Debian Edition))
switched to Debian from fedora after IBM started sticking their little dick fingers in everything.
little dick fingers
Definitely stealing this
I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition yesterday. I like it so far. Lots better than ubuntu.
I love pop, just so you know π
It's called soda.
They could be talking about bubble wrap to be fair
It's made even worse by some software pretending to be Ubuntu builds but just quietly installing a Snap version instead.
Looking at you, Firefox. π
Switched to EndeavourOS a couple of years ago as my main, and its been amazing. No regrets.
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yay
obligatory "something something aur is a haunted wasteland and it's your fault for ignoring the forty warning signs"
I just don't see the point of them when there are flatpaks. I'm not super knowledgeable on Snaps so maybe there's some huge benefit I don't know about, but they always just seemed like a worse version of flatpak to me.
The huge benefit (to canonical) is that they control the store/repo.
How exactly is that a benefit?
I should have added a /s.
Canonical controls the back end and that (along with how canonical has treated snaps in Ubuntu pulling them in with apt calls) are two major reasons snaps get (justified) hate
I donβt see the point of flatpaks when there are appimages.
Anyway last I heard snap has terminal/server apps and more system interaction.
What I like about flatpaks over appimages is that they will get updated, be included in the application list, and not live inside my Downloads Directory
I have been using an app called gear lever to manage my app images and I am very happy.
Also deduplication is nice
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Everything on the system, including the desktop, kernel, and CUPS, can be installed by snap.
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Until recently, I've had no real preference as mostly using RHEL clones at work. Now using Ubuntu...and snap has been causing issues.
I have ubuntu on my server and I really need to switch it. It's such a dick move when you apt install something and it opts for a snap. I just roll my eyes and groan when I think of having to back up EVERYTHING (music, media, dockers configs, compiled projects, random projects, etc) in order to switch the distro. I dont' have the time to do it. It's like nearly 2TB worth of stuff.
Isn't the default installation of Ubuntu to BTRFS? In which case, you should have an @ subvolume with Ubuntu that's mounted to /, and an @home subvolume that's mounted to /home.
Make a new subvolume, install a new operating system into it, and choose that subvolume in the bootloader, should be able to have Ubuntu and 'your favourite OS' (I use Arch btw) living side-by-side with the same home directory.
....you can do that? Huh.
i've been waiting for an update to break Cachy, before reinstalling, but nothing seems to break like my previous Arch based distros. I put BTRFS on everything because snapshots are the best.
Whatβs snap? I use LMDE and i donβt think i have that.
It's Canonicals' package manager. A lot of people, myself included, dislike it mostly because the backend is proprietary and it locks the repository to Canonical only. Also given their past history, it may be doing something nefarious.
it fucking up my Firefox was nefarious enough
Dunno what itβs like these days but brought steam to a crawl when I last used it
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When our powers combine we become....! Ah shit! I need yo reinstall, the snap is reading from the apt folder again!
So, I'm a novice Linux user and have been on Ubuntu for maybe 2 years now. And I'm just starting to hit the SNAPS wall - IE, just a bit too much of what I want doesn't install through snaps. Is there a good progression for my "next distro after Ubuntu?". Still need some training wheels, but ready to take the next step.
Is there a good progression for my "next distro after Ubuntu?".
Yes. Linux Mint has got your back.
I also vouch for Mint in your case because itβs based on Ubuntu there is less of a learning curve than Fedora/OpenSuse
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Look at Fedora or OpenSUSE.
Another vote for Mint. I run Mint on anything graphical and straight Debian on anything headless; ten years ago that was Ubuntu and Debian instead
It's fine Snap, I didn't need to be able to set a default browser or connect it to other programs anyways βΊοΈ
Where is Nix? Oh right, he's in space, chilling.
nixpkgs is still kicking off their build pipeline, they'll be here in 4 days
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